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2017-10-28 02:54:28

Eye Color Adjustement



With each new eye color that is introduced into the game, I've noticed that the already implemented ones don't get an update to introduce them in their own "genetics", so I thought it was a good idea to suggest an update of sorts, so the older eye colors don't get left behind. Below you can see the current eye colors in game, the eye colors they pass and then the suggested eye colors they could pass, too. They are divided in different color groups for the sake of convenience, not because I'm proposing color groups for the eyes. I also recommend opening the wiki article regarding eye colors in another window to check the eye colors easier.

After a bit of research about eye pigmentation and thinking, I remade the groups and included every single eye color implemented currently. While Bismuth now has the lead on most possible outcomes with 18, the previous one had been Dawn with 7, so I aimed to give the other eye colors out there with less more possible outcomes to reach the magical 7. Those that don't have the "Could pass" box are either wild, custom basic or special cases, like the gemstone eye colors, exclusive color eyes, contacts or obtained only by breeding. The new color groups helped me a lot to visualize better the possibilities so, in the event that this were implemented, I hope they help the ones to sort them too!

Amber & Brown


  • Amber|Passes: Amber

  • Bronze|Passes: Bronze, Brown, Olive, Sage|Could pass: Cognac, Earth, Sandy

  • Brown|Passes: Brown

  • Cognac|Passes: Amber, Brown, Cognac, Red|Could pass: Bronze, Earth, Sandy

  • Earth|Passes: Brown, Earth, Grey|Could pass: Bronze, Malachite, Sandy, Silver

  • Tan|Passes: Tan

  • Saffron|Passes: Amber, Saffron|Could pass: Cognac, Peach, Sinoper, Sunset, Yellow

  • Sandy|Passes: Sandy

  • Sinoper|Passes: Amber, Red, Sinoper|Could pass: Cognac, Olive, Saffron, Sunset, Yellow

  • Sunglow|Passes: Sunglow

  • Sunset|Passes: Peach, Saffron, Sinoper, Sunset, Red, Yellow|Could pass: Sandy

  • Yellow|Passes: Yellow



Blue & Gray


  • Aqua|Passes: Aqua, Blue, Crystal, Ice, Mint |Could pass: Seafoam, White

  • Crystal|Passes: Blue, Crystal, Green|Could pass: Ice, Grey, Sodalite

  • Black|Passes: Black

  • Blue|Passes: Blue

  • Denim|Passes: Denim, Grey, Malachite, Sage|Could pass: Olive, Silver, Sodalite

  • Grey|Passes: Grey

  • Ice|Passes: Blue, Ice|Could pass: Aqua, Grey, Seafoam, Silver, White

  • Jet|Passes: Jet

  • Midnight|Passes: Aqua, Blue, Crimson, Crystal, Ice, Midnight|Could pass: Sodalite

  • Paradise|Passes: Paradise, Sage, Seafoam|Could pass: Aqua, Blue, Cucumber, Mint

  • Sapphire|Passes: Blue, Sapphire|Could pass: Aqua, Crystal, Denim, Grey

  • Seafoam|Passes: Blue, Seafoam, White|Could pass: Cucumber, Aqua, Mint, Silver

  • Silver|Passes: Black, Grey, Silver, White|Could pass: Denim, Sodalite, Jet

  • Smoke|Passes: Black, Jet, Smoke, White|Could pass: Silver, Sodalite, Storm

  • Sodalite|Passes: Black, Grey, Silver, Sodalite, White|Could pass: Denim, Seafoam

  • Storm|Passes: Crystal, Denim, Mint, Paradise, Smoke,
    Sodalite, Storm

  • Starshine|Passes: Starshine

  • White|Passes: White



Green & Hazel


  • Cucumber|Passes: Cucumber, Emerald, Green, Jade, Olive|Could pass: Mint, Sage

  • Emerald|Passes: Emerald, Green|Could pass: Aqua, Cucumber, Jade, Sage, Olive

  • Green|Passes: Green
  • Hazel|Passes: Green, Hazel|Could pass: Bronze, Brown, Jade, Olive

  • Jade|Passes: Green, Jade, Sage|Could pass: Cucumber, Emerald, Mint Yellow

  • Jasper|Passes: Brown, Green, Jasper, White

  • Malachite|Passes: Grey, Malachite, Olive|Could pass: Cucumber, Green, Sage, Sodalite

  • Mint|Passes: Green, Ice, Mint, Sage, Seafoam|Could pass: Cucumber, White

  • Olive|Passes: Olive

  • Sage|Passes: Green, Sage|Could pass: Bronze, Hazel, Jade, Malachite, Olive

  • Sunburst|Passes: Amber, Hazel, Olive, Sage, Sunburst|Could pass: Cucumber, Mint



Heterochromia


  • Bismuth:|Passes: Albinoid, Amber, Aqua, Bismuth, Blue, Crimson , Crystal, Emerald, Glass, Green, Jade, Mint, Paradise, Pink, Red, Sapphire, Sunburst, Yellow
  • Glass|Passes: Blue, Brown, Glass, Green

  • Hetero Black & White|Passes: Black, Grey, H. Black & White, White

  • Hetero Blue & Brown|Passes: Blue, Brown, H. Blue & Brown

  • Hetero Blue & Green|Passes: Blue, Green, H. Blue & Green

  • Hetero Brown & Blue|Passes: Brown, Blue, H. Brown & Blue

  • Hetero Green & Blue|Passes: Blue, Green, H. Blue & Green

  • Hetero White & Black|Passes: Black, Grey, H. White & Black, White

  • Mosaic|Passes: Blue, Emerald, Glass, Green, Mosaic, Peach, Sapphire

  • Opal|Passes: Blue, Opal, Red, Yellow

  • Sectoral Amber & Ice|Passes: Amber, Ice, S. Amber & Ice

  • Sectoral Brown & Blue|Passes: Blue, Brown, S. Brown & Blue

  • Sectoral Green & Blue|Passes: Blue, Green, S. Green & Blue

  • Sectoral Ice & Green|Passes: Green, Ice, S. Ice & Green

  • Sectoral Red & Jet|Passes: Jet, Red, S. Red & Jet

  • Sectoral Yellow & Green|Passes: Green, S. Yellow & Green, Yellow



Red & Violet


  • Albinoid|Passes: Albinoid, Pink, Red

  • Amethyst|Passes: Amethyst, Blue, Pink, White

  • Crimson|Passes: Crimson

  • Dawn|Passes: Blue, Dawn, Pink, Sapphire, Starshine, Sunglow, Yellow

  • Garnet|Passes: TBA

  • Indigo|Passes: Blue, Crimson, Red

  • Lavender|Passes: Blue, Pink, Red

  • Nebula|Passes: Blue, Crimson, Red, Nebula, Sapphire|Could pass: Tyrian

  • Peach|Passes: Peach, Pink, Red, Yellow|Could pass: Hazel, Paradise, Saffron

  • Pink|Passes: Pink

  • Red|Passes: Brown, Red|Could pass: Cognac, Crimson, Pink, Sinoper, Tyrian

  • Tyrian|Passes: Crimson, Pink, Red, Tyrian|Could pass: Aqua, Cognac, Sapphire

  • Violet|Passes: Blue, Pink, Red

  • Zoisite|Passes: Mint, Pink, Zoisite|Could pass: Aqua, Cucumber, Green, Ice



I've tried to include the most likely color to pass from those that are in need of more possible outcomes while spreading the eye colors evenly. Feel free to point out why one of the proposed eye colors doesn't fit or could also be added as a possible outcome! If this were to be implemented, the Admins would get the final say, but simply proposing an update without suggesting eye colors seemed very poor to me :'D

Another eye-related suggestion worth taking a look into



This suggestion has 335 supports and 4 NO supports.



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Edited on 13/10/18 @ 03:05:23 by Beerzebub (#84593)

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Posted on
2017-10-30 15:28:29
@Quake

Thank you, and please do! I'm about to go to bed, but if something needs to be fixed I'll do so first thing after RO :D



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2017-10-30 15:30:27
@Myriad

Thanks you! The "black" group was messing me up, and the late addition of "heterochromia" was a life saver - even though it has no eye colors that are affected by this suggestion.



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Edited on 30/10/17 @ 15:33:54 by Berenos|Lights Off (#84593)

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2017-10-30 17:46:34
Yes please! I actually like eye colors more the more possible outcomes they have; I am tired of certain eye colors dominating my pride because my current king has them and passes down only that single color.



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2017-11-05 14:35:43
This is so good! I was just thinking earlier today that we need more intricate eye genetics!



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2017-11-20 05:21:17
Nice idea! Support!

(But I'm not sure about Mint passing White :/ But it already passes Ice and Seafoam so idk... x.x)



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2017-11-20 05:25:56
@Yuki

Thank you!

And that's why I suggested White as being passed by Mint; I tried to keep the colors balanced, and have them pass other 4 special custom colors beyond their own, then 2 basic. Mint already passes Green, so I thought Olive would be a bit redundant - it also seems too dark for me to be passed by Mint, so White it was :'D



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2017-11-20 05:31:26
Okay, got it! :D

But it's an awesome idea, cause some of the special eyes really need more colors to pass! For me, as a green eyes lover, the only 'useful' breeding would be Cucumber x Mint, but with your suggestion there would be more 'useful' colors! c:



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2018-01-07 05:41:35
I'm torn.

I really hate the idea of eyes having more fails, because I pick an eye color and put it on my king because I like that eye color. Not because I like a bunch of other colors. I usually choose a color with very few fails or one I really like despite its fails.

On the other hand- why does Red not pass Crimson?! Yeah, the older colors really need fail updates.



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2018-01-07 05:45:33
@Bezthiel

I'm sorry it causes you those mixed feelings! Feel free to propose an alternative with which you would be more comfortable. Maybe a way to enhance the chances of a lion's eye color to pass?



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2018-01-07 05:54:32
Personally, I'd like to see every eye get at least 3 fails of its own. Update them so they make sense (ie Red finally passing Crimson). Then introduce other breed-only eye colors for people who want their eyes to produce lots of fails. It worked for Dawn.

A breeding item for eyes is exactly not a thing I want to have to collect just to keep my king from producing Hazel and Saffron along with the Red and Yellow I already hate out of Peach.



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2018-01-07 06:03:20
@Bezthiel

I didn't mean an item, more like a boost if you breed two lions with similar or the samel eye colors, something like that.



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2018-01-07 22:27:51
I support this, it seems like a nice idea.



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2018-01-08 05:08:22
Heh, every other time I've suggested maybe something shouldn't change, I've been offered an item idea as consolation.

But, I'm not sure what you mean then. There already is a bigger chance for your preferred eye color to pass if you breed two of them together. If you mean adding fails would change my chance to get the eye color I chose from (totally random percent I pulled out of my ass) 45% to 35%, then I don't support this.

I really can't agree in the first place that every Oasis eye color needs to have 7 fails. 4 for each is reasonable for a not-that-special color. 7 is reasonable for Dawn because it's both a special event color and breed-only. 7 isn't reasonable for a 3GB color changer.



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2018-01-08 05:19:59
@Bezthiel

I was only trying to see if there was some sort of middle ground between the proposed idea and what you felt most comfortable with, so it could be taken into account when the admins take a look at this. I'm not too sure how eyes roll in a breeding, but I thought each parent's rolled separately at random, and then you get an eye color from the parent that "wins" that roll and then you get either their eye color or one of the fails, and that a possible boost could make it so both parents' chances to have their eye color - if its the same - could add to each other no matter which parent's eye color rolls, instead of doing so separately. But I won't give it more thought if it bothers you and leave you be :'D



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2018-02-10 04:05:30
Updated the suggestion to include Smoke and Storm eye colors! I can't believe it took me so long to add them

Also added Garnet, for completionist purposes I guess



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