Posted by -LOCKED - "Hide Mutation" Item

Legless Lego Legolas (#46739)

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2018-01-11 10:48:05
An item, pehaps a decor like Tigers Eye, which hides the mutation on adult lions. The lion is still genetically a mutie and can pass it, if applicable, (Primals, Piebald, Dwarf) but the appearance is changed to the default form.
For example, I can see it being used when you prefer the non-mutie art on your king but still want him to pass Primal or Piebald genetically, or maybe if you just want a change! It should be reversable as well. It would be nice to give more options to customizing your lions. :)



This suggestion has 200 supports and 6 NO supports.



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Torquil (#53700)

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2018-07-26 10:28:15
I would love this if it prompted the ability to pose mutated lions.
For example, giving this item to a primal king, lab frogging it, and posing it. Having the pose, no mutation visible, but still able to pass the primal mutation.



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Torquil (#53700)

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2018-08-06 14:40:05
Bumping this back up. <3

With the new manes, I would really love to hide the primal and lab frog & pose my king.



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hmlove1218 (#155828)

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2018-11-01 18:57:29
OMG yes please!! I have two achromia lionesses that I think are absolutely gorgeous, but you can't see it because of their mutation. And my side account has a melanistic lioness that's pretty under her mutation as well. I'd love to be able to show these off.



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di (#126735)

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2019-04-18 05:06:37
Sooo much support!

While I adore my smilus king, decor looks so horrible on him. I'd love to be able to see him looking normal and rocking decor, but still being able to pass his mutation. And I'd like to be able to see him looking like himself again if I chose too.

If they can code a item to make your king look like a female, or look like an adolescent, then it's ILLOGICAL ( :P ) to me that we can't have a similar item that makes your mutie king LOOK normal. People want to keep the mutie's ability to pass his mutation. Using a safou (?) fruit takes the mutation away and defeats the purpose.

Forever supporting this.



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Sync [Clean
Interstellar Pied] (#34821)

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2019-04-18 05:07:55
I literally made this exact same suggestion so people could still use the pose art on their mutated kings or w/e tf and I got swarmed with 'no support's and got shit for it lmfao how are u gettin all these supports x'D



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fluff (#145767)

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2019-04-18 05:14:14
i honestly don't think posing would be included if this item is even used because it only hides the mutation art it doesn't change the fact that its mutated so that mutation still takes up the pose spot. I will admit having it so you have the default art and you are able to decorate your lion is a good idea.



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Sync[Clean
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2019-04-18 05:15:32
that makes literally no sense. You can use a pose on a lab frogged male lion(when male lions can't be posed), so why wouldn't you be able to use it here?

Plus, a pose does not take up a mutation "slot". You can use poses with piebalds....



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Edited on 18/04/19 @ 05:16:29 by Synchron[Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

fluff (#145767)

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2019-04-18 05:21:43
thats because default females and pies n stuff can be posed. They do not take up the pose spot. Other mutations like primals do take up the pose slot and if the mutation it not literally being removed the coding will still make it not possible to pose it because that mutation while not being visible is still there in the code.

males cannot be posed cause there are no poses for male lions but that doesn't mean their code takes up the pose slot :/

Edit: uh yea duh they made it possible for pies. if you go in wardrobe you can see the poses are more with the mutations for the fact they take that slot. pies and patches get their own little thing.



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Edited on 18/04/19 @ 05:22:58 by fluff (#145767)

Flamel (#5356)

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2019-04-18 05:45:08
Synchron’s thread is worded a bit differently, but the comment I made on that thread is pretty much the same as this suggestion ^^. So, obviously, I support this! :D






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Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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2019-04-18 05:59:32
Dude, you're completely misunderstanding here... yes, the pose and mutations take up the same slot IN THE WARDROBE, but they are not actually coded that way on the lion itself... because, guess what... some mutations besides Pied etc /are getting poses/ at some point in the future. If you look at a posed lioness on its page, it does not say "posed" in the "mutation" area... it says "none". AKA, no mutation. Still posed.

Wardrobe =/= actual coding. On the actual lion itself, pose + mutation are entirely separate- you are simply unable to pose a mutated lion bc there is no available posed mutation art(besides piebald.) The reason the poses take up the same slots as the mutations except pied etc in the WARDROBE is bc there is no poses available for the other mutations, thus you would be unable to pair pose + mutation visually in the wardrobe.

This would not be a problem if there was an item to hide the visual mutation on a lion, and it was then lab frogged and posed.

Piebald does not have its own 'slot' separate from other mutations on the actual lion- thus why you cannot have a piebald Tigon, or a piebald Primal. Piebald simply takes up the mutation slot... yet can be used with poses. So poses do not share the same slot on a lion as mutations, it doesn't work that way. A pose works the same as Tigers Eye etc, it's a /decor/, it does not take up a slot in the lion's genetics.



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Edited on 18/04/19 @ 06:02:22 by Synchron[Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

fluff (#145767)

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2019-04-18 06:14:52
Yea some are getting poses later in the future. why they don't have them now uh easy because its not in the coding and it needs to be edited to make possible. Its like with a DU they look normal but their mutation takes up the pose slot right now. While it doesn't say its taking up that spot does not mean it is not. Like i said with pies and patches they have already been fixed to not take up that spot.

Poses have been suggested to be put on lions with mutations and it has already been told it would not be possible because they take up the same spot(and this is from suggestions of putting poses just to fit decors not making them visible on the mutation) . If you aren't showing the mutation it does not change the fact that it is not there. It still there just not seen. Its not as simple as oh you can't see it so that means it can be posed. No the coding won't change in them just because you put an item on it for mutations. Its not just all about the art,its the code itself for mutations that results in the art and stuff.

They plan on giving poses to mutations that do not have unique art other than a couple of changes to the appearance like colouring or so. Poses are not being made for stuff like primals, etc so there coding would not be able to make it so they can be posed as long as the mutation is still present seen or not.



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Sync[Clean
Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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2019-04-18 08:37:34
You do realize it would be pretty simple to just separate poses from mutations in the lion's code, right? Like, they managed it with pieds, they're managing it for other mutations once they start making poses for them(and, actually, you're incorrect- ALL mutations are planned to have poses eventually, according to what I've been told in my thread, they're just prioritizing the more 'basic' ones first.)

Plus, poses taking up the mutation slot on the lion itself makes no sense regardless- piebald takes up the mutation spot, which is why you can't have a piebald + primal at the same time, yet you can mix poses with piebald, so...??

A mutation is hard-coded into the lion's /GENETICS/. It is a part of the lion ITSELF. A pose, however, is a /modifier/, a /decor/, like Tiger's Eye or the cub stage items. It does nothing but change the lion's appearance, it does not take up a mutation slot, it just simply cannot be applied to mutations for which there is no posed art yet.

However, just like it is possible to pose a male lion that is lab frogged bc it is now open to female decors, a mutie using this item should be able to use poses as it is now open to non-mut decors.

And even if poses DID take up the 'mutation slot' on a lion(which I am pretty sure they don't as it makes no sense), you do realize it'd be ridiculously simple to separate them should this item be added, right? Like.. they were able to make lab-frogged males poseable(when they originally were not), why wouldn't they be able to make muts posable with an item like this? like lol

Like, back to the whole lab frogged male thing- you PHYSICALLY CANNOT put a pose on a male lion. It straight up will not let you because the pose items are specifically incompatible with male lions... yet.... the lab frog item alters the lion's coding when used to make it able to be used with poses. Applying the lab frog item makes it so that you can apply anything to it that you would be able to apply to a female lion.

This item would do the exact same thing- change the lion's coding so that it would be compatible with non-mutation decor/modifiers/etc, such as poses. Literally the same effect as the lab frog.



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Edited on 18/04/19 @ 08:41:06 by Synchron[Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

fluff (#145767)

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Posted on
2019-04-18 08:45:16
ok then i'd love to see you code it ^-^



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Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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2019-04-18 09:22:30
I'm not a programmer lmao and I doubt you are either, so no need to get all snarky. However, the LD team have clearly shown it is possible and they are fully capable of doing it. They don't need my help lmao



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Posted on
2019-05-07 12:58:09
Hey, everyone.

We'd like to say that we have reviewed both suggestions, and we feel that the suggestions are both different enough not to be considered a duplicate. Additionally, this thread was posted quite some time ago.

We ask that everyone participating in these discussions to remain respectful and stay on topic.

Thank you.



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