Posted by [Jun] Stronger Gods

πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita
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2018-06-05 21:22:29
So first of all, I want to say that I completely LOVE the new event that has been added for June! After going through the comments on the event news post, (and yes, I did read ALL of them, it was exhausting lol) I couldn't help but notice that a lot of people are struggling to defeat the snake demons in explore. And I'm certainly not the only one who has noticed that whichever God you side with doesn't actually help you very much, if at all. I think these things are a shame and it could be made better and more enjoyable for everyone if that were changed a bit.

Basically, my idea is to make a few adjustments that would make things a little more reasonable for the majority of players. How do we accomplish this? Maybe Bast could heal you more than just a lousy 3HP, for starters. She's an ancient Goddess, for crying out loud! I'm sure she could heal you more than 3HP, which barely even makes a difference, like come on now... And I didn't play their sides yet but I'm sure the same could be said for whatever Seth's powers are and for Anubis doing only a small amount of damage to the snakes as well.

Honestly, I haven't noticed any difference at all in my King's ability to defeat them since he got Bast's help. It's working the same as before and it is not any easier, at least not noticeably. What is the point in having the 2nd tier of the story line unlock on June 5th if it really makes no difference? I thought the whole point of making us wait until the 5th to get event currency was to have the Gods help us (and I mean actually help us) defeat the snake demons? I know it's supposed to be a challenge and I want it to be a challenge too, but I just think in order for the lore for this event to work, they would need to make more of an impact in battle. I don't even think the snakes would necessarily need to be weakened, if the Gods were able to help us out more than they currently do.

Also, side note- I hope the shop prices are super cheap this year to make up for the long wait without being able to earn any currency, and the difficulty of gaining Khepri Beetles. Just saying.

Anyway, thanks everyone for hearing me out on this! I really hope they change it. Vote support if you agree with me, and whether you do or don't, I would love to know your reasons why. Thanks.

EDIT:
Please note: I am NOT suggesting that it suddenly be increased a lot or anything like that. I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I'm really not suggesting that the Gods should carry you or give you an easy win... I don't want it to be easy either. All I'm saying is that they could gradually increase it over the duration of the event to make it more realistic and make sense for the story they've put in place. Not by a huge amount but a small amount would be nice. Not to the point where it's easy, but to the point where it's not as weak feeling anymore.



This suggestion has 69 supports and 33 NO supports.



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πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita
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2018-06-05 21:27:35
If you have more input or ideas, I am happy to hear it also. <3



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Karmo (#98909)

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2018-06-05 21:30:04
Anubis actually does 20 damage, but he's only attacked once for me.
Seth, however, hasn't even helped yet.



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GalacticRing (#68231)

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2018-06-05 21:30:31
I'm going to have to say No Support, but I'm going to give my reasons why.

Here are the things that the gods each do:

> Bast heals 3 damage (not sure if it's constant or if it's after a certain time)

>Seth deals 3 damage no matter what you do as your action

>Anubis can do a random 20 damage blow, though from what I've heard, it's quite unpredictable

The entire point of these missions are to build up the strength of these otherwise weakened gods. After all, they did state that they need your help to do so. Their vessels are weak, and they're getting stronger.

Also, 5 days isn't that bad in terms of currency. I've actually had it fairly easy gaining them. After finishing Seth's quest and fighting a lot of those snakes, I'm perfectly fine after one day. A solid 46 KB thus far. As for damage output, I also don't see much of a difference, but it helps having that crutch of constant damage. It isn't meant to nuke everything. What would be the fun in that?

I can see how it would be frustrating, but I simply don't see an issue with the current setup.



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πŸ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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2018-06-05 21:32:57
I've got 118 Khepri Beetles, it's not that hard. Anubis does 20 damage once/twice per battle, Bast heals you, I don't know Seth's power but I'm making a wild guess he attacks with me every turn. If you've got a tactic, The Snakes are really easy to beat even without help of the gods. You can't bite all the time. ;)



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Karmo (#98909)

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2018-06-05 21:34:44
I don't have trouble battling, I just have trouble finding the NPCs because it seems when I get a quest for them, they suddenly vanish and it's been happening all day. I feel like I won't be able to complete quests when the enemies suddenly go away.



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πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita
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2018-06-05 21:38:15
I'm glad you aren't having a rough time of it, but from the comments I have seen, many other players appear to be struggling with it a lot. I think I'm doing ok with it too, we seem to be at about the same amount... But this is not about me, it's about the community as a whole.

And that's kind of my exact point, like... 3 damage? 3HP? Are you kidding? I don't think it should automatically nuke everything, but that's still a ridiculously small amount. I get that they're having to build back up their powers and all... Then maybe around June 10th or so they could start doing more to actually help? Higher damage, more healing, etc. I just think we should be feeling the help a little more than this tbh...

And Karmo, that's terrible, but sounds like it could be some kind of bug or glitch I think...?

(If others who have also been struggling with this could comment and maybe explain why, that would be great btw... It would give us more of an idea of how many players are having difficulties with this event.)



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Edited on 05/06/18 @ 21:59:08 by βœ­πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita β­πŸ’Žβœ­ (#85179)

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2018-06-05 21:38:32
Bast is really not being a lot of help for me so far. I'm mostly getting my butt kicked. The snakes I've been running into do about 5 or 6 times her heals per hit.



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Edited on 05/06/18 @ 21:51:33 by Dragonmage (#17821)

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Posted on
2018-06-06 04:47:36
No support.

Ive had bast give me 4hp not sure if thats supposed to happen lol.

I agree I think thier week to go along with plot.

But both Anubis and Bast have helped me a great deal. Like most things in this game (although I dont know much i havent been here long just a month) it seems to be based on luck and chance.

With the quests you can choose to ask for a new task and the reward is actually pretty good. 10Kb and a very good amount of exp. I dont want to disclose my Kh turn out (as it feels like gloating infront of those struggling with them) but its at a very good rate.

I feel like participants in this event should have waited a bit longer before criticising the tactics of this event. Its only very early into the month. I dont know how easy the other events are, but really having to work for kh beetles and quests make me feel proud when I complete them 😊 it also makes the story more immersive from a rp stand point.

I like to imagine Anubis not jumping inbas often because he is unsure of himself. And i imagine Bast only giving 3-4hp because she is sjowing tough love and wants you go get stronger but not have to rely soley on her.

The gods activeness to me is all apart of the story and im my opinion they probably get stronger as you go.

But its only day six. If it was like day 15 then I'd be worried.

Im sorry to everyone who is having a hard time with this event and wish you luck!




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Sparrow (#130681)

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2018-06-06 07:46:44
I sided with Seth and he definitely does enough. Doesn't matter if I miss a grab, rest, whatever, he still does his damage. I went from losing most snake battles to winning almost all of them since the abilities unlocked.
The gods aren't meant to win for you, you still have to use common sense, strategy, etc. If the snakes were a guaranteed win every time, what would be the point? Everyone would get thousands of free beetles and every item in the shop would be worthless because all you would have to do to get beetles would be to sit back and let the gods do all the work for you.
I'm a fairly casual player and I have around 70 beetles right now. Haven't finished today's quest yet.
And like some others have said, the event is still just starting. Maybe the gods get stronger later on. And maybe they don't, but you still have the whole month to stock up on beetles without needing the gods to carry you.



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πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita
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2018-06-06 07:50:20
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I'm really not suggesting that the Gods should carry you or give you an easy win... I don't want it to be easy either. All I'm saying is that they could gradually increase it over the duration of the event to make it more realistic and make sense for the story they've put in place. Not by a huge amount but a small amount would be nice.



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πŸ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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2018-06-06 07:52:18
I'm pretty sure their power will increase - they just woke up after being asleep for hundreds of years, of course they're weak. ;p We don't know the storyline, just let it flow.



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GalacticRing (#68231)

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2018-06-06 07:53:57
@Kiita Give it a bit. We don’t know what’s going to happen. This could already be planned for all we know. Immediately saying this the day we got the gods to help doesn’t give you enough time to see if this will even be implemented without your suggestion.



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2018-06-06 07:56:47
I find its way more effective to grab then pound the snakes! My chances of winning dramatically improve if I do that ^-^



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2018-06-06 08:00:08
That would be cool, they are so useless. Anubis just doesn't do anything. Support



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πŸ’Žβ­ Kiita
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2018-06-06 08:00:30
I hope they do. I basically wanted to put this here because I saw a ton of people complaining about it on the event news post and I wanted to help them. I hoped maybe this would nudge things in the right direction... Hopefully they will get stronger as time goes on, in which case I'll flag this thread for deletion. I would love for that to be the case but from what I saw, it didn't look like it was going to be that way. If we wait until the very end of the event to do something about it, what would be the point?

I should also point out that this suggestion has nothing to do with the quests that the Gods send you on. Those seem fine to me and I haven't noticed many complaints about people struggling with them. I don't want the game to be made super easy either, that would take all of the fun out of it.



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