Hi there.

I used a GMO Cow on a Double Uterus lion a few months back and she gave birth to an entire 6 cubs; all of which had mutations :)

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@Glimmer
Holy crap!!! That is awesome :D
if you dont mind me asking, what kind of mutations did they have if you can remember? (Im always interested in what people get ^^)

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With a GMO it's relatively common to get multiple muts - they have the highest chance of success per cub out of any mutation breeding item. We don't know exact numbers but staff has confirmed it's over 50%. Congrats on your cubs, and I hope the AMP turns out to be one you like! :)

(Also congrats @Glimmer, that's some nice odds even for a GMO!)

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@Myriad
That is pretty awesome to know and thank you ^^! If the females fertility is just 1% does the odds of a mutation go even higher? (Sorry for all of the questions lol.. Im still a little bit new when it comes to mutations???)

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It does help a little, yes. The lower a lioness's fertility, the higher her chance of 'natural' mutations (i.e. mutated cubs without the need for items). So 1% is the best chance, in that sense.

However, imho it isn't necessarily worth making a huge effort to breed a lot of 1% lionesses tbh. They can take a LOT of attempts to get pregnant (as in, several hundred, oftentimes), which is a huge drain on your energy and stops you being able to use it for making money off things like collecting event currency etc.

The boost to the chances of a natural mutation from just low fertility does seem to be pretty tiny, as well. In fact most of the random mutated cubs I've had have actually been born from lionesses with relatively high ferts! So obviously ymmmv, and people will have differing opinions of course, but for me personally I'm not convinced the tiny increased chance of muts from VLFs - and especially the most extreme ones like 1-2%s - are really worth all the trouble and wasted energy.

Edit to add: and don't be afraid to ask questions! We were all new to these things once, and there's a lot to learn/remember with muties <3

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@ Myriad
I totally understand how you feel about the 1% thing.... It took me 150 tries with this breeding XDD lol.
When I first started lioden, I've always thought it was way better to do that but Im thinking about
trying it with my other lioness that do not have very low fertility.

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And 150 is relatively good for a 1% too! Though I'm sure it didn't feel like that at the time

The first few 1%s I ever tried years ago all look 200-300+ attempts each, and that was enough to put me off forever. 10-15 full energy bars spent per lioness is just a big nope for me! Partly I'm just lazy and really hate multiple breeding attempts, but I also figure that by saving energy on not doing really low fert breedings I probably make enough other profits from exploring and stuff with that energy that I could just buy and use CRBs with the money earned instead.

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Oh man... 200-300+ attempts is something I have no patients for as well(Was going to stop at 200 if I didnt get luck). I also understand because I really was torn between trying to breed the female or doing the event and today was the last day she would be in heat.

Thank you so much for talking with me about this! ^^
This has help a lot with understanding this a lot more X3.

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You got lucky.

I used a GMO and CRB on a lioness, she didn't give me any muties. Usually I get at least a foldie or a mane mutie if I use a GMO.

I have to wait to get one again in a few months ^^;

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No trouble at all! <3

I'm sure there are plenty of other people who do find it worthwhile to battle it out breeding 1%s regularly, so don't let me put you off completely if that's what you want to do. They're just by no means the only option for mutation breeding

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