Posted by [May] Token Exchange & Token Shop

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2019-05-20 03:20:32
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✪ Summary:

Ever since the flat rate of 3 Tokens for Arena Entry Fee was introduced, we now have a large number of players drowning in Tokens. We need something to do with them and encourage a reason to continue to fight for them, because when players have a ton of tokens already, they're less inclined to do challenges.

✪ What I Am Proposing:

Part One: The Token Exchange
Plain and simple, give people an alternative use for their Tokens. Here's some ideas:

Manticora Beetle Exchange: Rate of 10 Tokens per 1 MB.
----✧ A simple, clean cut option to exchange Tokens for Manticora Beetles.
----✧ Rate chosen since the Big Ticket Items™ of May (Lion Scrotum and Ornate Body Frame) cost 400 MB and 250 MB respectively, and this very likely is not going to let people stockpile these bad boys. 1,000 Tokens would only net 100 MB, which means foregoing other rewards.
Reputation Exchange: Rate of 5 Tokens per 1 Reputation.
----✧ Literally just the reverse of the currently existing "Exchange 1 Reputation for 5 Arena Tokens" option. The average user doesn't need more Arena Tokens, let's be real.




UPDATE: 5.12.2023
Devs have added a token exchange as requested. However, the other ideas have not been mentioned. While most of the below ideas are just for fun, the only one I would consider important is the Crafting Materials exchange.

I consider this important because too many recipes use materials that do not drop enough. Consider Lion Tufts are used in 11 of the 31 crafting recipes, but never in amounts lower than 10 at a time like the other 'rare' materials - Lion's Teeth and Lion's Claws - use. Lion's Teeth also seem scarce in drops and suffer this 'needing a lot of them' issue, but applicators thankfully don't require as many.

As a personal example: I have been partaking the May event every year actively since Trophy Applicator was added, and I have never gotten enough to make Trophy base.

Part Two: The Token Shop

A number of our members have mentioned a better long-term solution may be a shop. I am in full agreement. Since Tokens are currency gained specifically through fighting, I think it would be apt to keep these options in-character with the 'Fighting Theme'.

"Why random?"
The goal of this suggestion is to alleviate 'Token Bloat' that many players are suffering: hundreds or thousands of tokens with no use. These are 'just for fun' options for those with too many tokens, rather than for players seeking specific things. To preserve the value of Manticora Beetles, this shop would never include Big Ticket Items™.

[GACHA] May Titles: 400 Tokens per pull.
----✧ If your lion is winning challenges, then clearly they have a reputation with the lions in the story. It makes sense in a roleplay and story context that with fighting and winning so many challenges, fans might give them a title.
----✧ Titles cost 300 MB currently - which realistically I think is too high but that's neither here nor there. Give the OPTION to buy them with 400 Tokens per 1 Title, but make which title you get randomized.
[GACHA] War Paint: 50 Tokens per pull.
----✧ When purchased with tokens, this will give you a random War Paint out of the existing War Paints available in the store.
[CHOICE] Crafting Materials: 100 Tokens per material.
----✧ This would NOT be random. It lets you spend 100 Tokens per material, to get the ones you need.
----✧ Due to the size of random crafting material pool for May - and how winning and losing pools are different - this may lock players out of the ability to earn crafting materials - which are specifically in the LOSER pool only.
[CHOICE] Exclusives: Varies
----✧ These would be exclusives available only through the Token Shop. I would personally recommend Bases and Backgrounds that are entirely exclusive to this shop.
----✧ These would be direct purchases, but have high price tags, likely 500+ per.

The Shop Owner
The shop could also use an owner character. I'd personally love to see a male groupie to compliment the female groupie who aspires to be the champion some day. But I'd also love you see or hear your ideas. This one's just for fun.

If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 866 supports and 5 NO supports.



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Edited on 12/05/23 @ 15:25:33 by [△] Nadir (#108458)

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2021-05-06 15:33:42
Stash (#184503): Even if this wasn't added and the token cost went up, that's still something being done. But right now there's so little incentive to actually challenge others, and I'm noticing last year I had a ton of challenges. This year? Lucky if I have two, and most of my challenges aren't getting a response. That means that new members might not be able to get challenges very easily for tokens, and because you get zero tokens if they don't accept the challenge, that's rough.

May was always a bit of a crapshoot when it came to events. Tons of folks have mentioned they don't like this event. So part of this was in hopes to encourage people to have more reason to take part.



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Starblazer (#51170)

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2021-05-08 12:20:41
I have a total of over 2500 tokens over my main and side. The only reason I continue to do challenges is that new players might not have any tokens yet. I need something to do with them. A way to exchange them for MB would be fantastic. This is one of the hardest events to get event currency for so if the exchange rate is decently high, then it wouldn't break the bank or anything.



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Sinxerely | Slava
Ukrayini (#168394)

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2021-05-10 08:00:41
BIG support. On main and on my side, each account has close to 400 tokens each and let's be honest, it's next to impossible to spend that much unless you are extremely dedicated as a player and literally wake up every hour to feverishly play in the arena. Plus, Vash gives you the tokens in explore after fighting a primal, and the reputation quests, the 15 minute challenges... I am literally drowning in tokens and I don't know what to do with them. Having this many is a waste.

Storyline wise, I do have a suggestion though! Maybe the shop owner could be part of a group of lions that want to get into the arena but are not confident enough to challenge for tokens and would rather trade the goods they have in exchange of the set amount of tokens you trade away! I feel it'd be a nice addition to the storyline too since this is so focused on fighting and dueling.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2021-05-10 08:09:43
Sinxerely (#168394) : Absolutely. There's far too many ways to earn tokens and not enough to spend them. Even if the token rewards were removed from reputation quests, players would still be drowning in them.

And yeah, I love the idea of the shop NPCs having their own ambitions. Even just a little blurb of text about such a thing would be cute. Especially since the Champion Shop owner is basically that but the ladies.
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🗡 The Knave 🗡 (#90472)

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Posted on
2021-05-10 20:53:44
I support this. I'm currently drowning in so much Arena Tokens that I've stopped responding to Challenges and may just have to stop doing the daily quests from Vash/V'kai in order to lower the amount by just fighting in the Arena.



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Cas (#67347)

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2021-05-14 17:04:35
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Pls. I am drowning in them.



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JustVibing (he/they) (#229645)

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2021-05-17 15:40:17
You have earned a total of 455 Manticora Beetles.
You have earned a total of 726 Arena Tokens.
As Sheldon Cooper once said,
"Oh really? 'The more the merrier?!' Well, if there were 700 P̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ Arena tokens in this house would we be celebrating? No, we'd be suffocating!"



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2021-05-18 17:33:56
This thread is back up. Thank you mod team.

I am still open to critique and ideas surrounding this - be it balancing issues or other things.



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Datrandomcat (#166891)

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Posted on
2021-05-24 08:44:27
Yeah, like what I am supposed to do with 1162 tokens?
It's litterally useless to have around.



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JustVibing (he/they) (#229645)

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2021-05-26 22:15:34
"You have 207 reputation with V'Kai"
"You have 1029 Arena Tokens"
"You have 470 Manticora Beetles"
please help I am drowning



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2021-05-26 23:17:09
Ouch, I'm sorry. I'm still bumping this, but they aren't doing updates right now so we'll hope for next year. ):



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sheepguts (#112546)

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Posted on
2021-05-28 10:42:07
FULL support. i just hit 1000 tokens and i have nothing to do with them. not sure why we got the ability to convert reputation into tokens, because we already have a good source of getting way too many tokens (challenges/completing quests). they build up incredibly fast and its irritating to not be able to do much with them. i really wanted a conversion from tokens to MB this year :(



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2021-05-28 10:55:21
I'm not sure why they added that either. I don't think I've seen a single person who needs that, but I could be wrong.

I wanted it too. I'm sorry. I know it's frustrating. It's been two years since I posited this suggestion. I can keep saying 'maybe next year' but at some point I begin to wonder. I'll keep trying to push this whenever I can.



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Graveycat (#227017)

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2021-05-30 07:02:18
Definitely in FULL support here! I didn't realize I'd end up with so many tokens, and no mantacora beetles (I even found them rare in the explore) since I don't have a huge amount of time to enter an area every hour. I think, even if I entered hourly I'd still have too many tokens. Feels like a waste ;^;



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Datrandomcat (#166891)

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2022-04-02 00:20:13
Please dev team, please.



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