-LOCKED - Rumble Marking Clarification
Posted on 2020-05-05 15:40:51

Rumble Markings



As per our last news post, we would like to give you an update on the status of the rumble markings.

We have had a small number of threads over the past few days pop up discussing this marking with comments ranging from dislike of the marking, to the marking making them feel uncomfortable, to the marking having the potential to cause a seizure. We take comments like this very seriously and went further to investigate this.

Today, we sought legal clarification over the marking. We have been advised that we are compliant and meet all legal requirements and there is no reason that the marking should be removed from the game or that any additional warning notice needs to be given out. Additionally, the marking itself was not flagged as a typical risk.

However, we have decided to go above and beyond the requirements and have added a warning to our Terms of Service. This also concerns user submitted content. Users can display content of their choice (within reason, and assuming it complies with our Terms and Code of Conduct) on their den pages, in their avatars, lion bios, topic posts, etc. Most of these are not moderated in advance, and only when they are reported to us, so we feel it is now prudent to include this warning in our terms regardless.

We must ask that if you have noticed any adverse effects while accessing Lioden at any point, to discontinue use of the site immediately and seek medical help from a physician.

Rumble markings are now back on the site and the applicator has returned to Vashkartzen’s reputation shop. We will be keeping them in the second, revised version that was posted recently.

Rather than discuss this ad nauseum, we have made a final decision, and we will not be accepting any new suggestion threads, petitions or campaigns for the marking to be removed or adjusted. The marking can be discussed, but when the discussion descends into fighting, disrespect or bashing of the site and staff, you will be asked to stop discussing it. Failure to comply will result in action taken against your account. This is the same as any other topic discussed on Lioden.

Due to some of the conduct on the site from a small minority of players recently, we feel that we need to remind users of the Terms of Service point 6.2.b:
“You also agree that you will not in connection with the Game:
publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which:
is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, offensive, vulgar, racist, hateful, discriminatory, obscene, pornographic, sexually suggestive, misleading, abusive or deceptive or which attacks sexual orientation, promotes self-harm or eating disorders, involves murder, rape, suicide, terrorism, excessive gore or hacking;”

Chat



In light of recent events, we've implemented a filter in the chat room. Certain words and/or phrases are now blocked, and attempting to use them will result in you being timed out from posting in chat for 60 seconds. Intentionally attempting to get around this filter will result in actions being taken against your account, as the filter itself contains very serious words and phrases that we have never allowed to be used.

Staff members are now able to timeout players for 60 seconds as well, to assist with anyone that is intentionally causing issues in chat. Please continue to flag and report inappropriate messages as you see them, however.

Along with this chat update, we have also implemented a way for players to disable the visual ping effects. You can find this toggle under the gear settings in chat. This toggle is stored to your account and carries over through devices. You can turn on and turn off ping effects as necessary.

Admin Edit: Main Chat will remain paused for the rest of the day. We will look into unpausing Main Chat during EU morning hours. Thank you for your patience.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:32:02 by Katze (#3)

Kanciv (#119308)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:25:51
Who won? Materialism or morality? You decide.



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smilus (#148480)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:25:55
I appreciate the LD staff for trying to solve this, but your community should come first. This also wouldn’t have blown up the way it did if you deleted the marking in the beginning.

I don’t have any issues with the rumble marking, but if your community who wants to continue to play and support you should listen to them.



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Arthur (#11236)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:26:15
big bruh moment here

smh at people "just don't plaaay!!"



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🦉 Gryffbirb
(Main) 🦉 (#101710)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:26:32
Dier, there WAS a design suggested in one of the threads saying to modify the marking, that thread sadly no longer exists.



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TheMorgueDonator (#83658)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:27:14
Its like asking all dogs to be removed cause a small amount of people are allergic to them



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AkiraRose (#164628)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:27:28
For those bashing me about my comment clearly are looking for an argument. It’s people’s fault that the new chat rule is in place because even when being told not to bash staff people still did and you all are complaining because they’ve put a new chat rule in place. If people actually did the mature thing and listen and reported to it staff rather then arguing over chat then this wouldn’t of happened. It appears that lockdown means people can be nasty to other people.. I have epilepsy but I’m not kicking up a fuss nor am I hollering abuse towards staff members. Why? Because I have respect for staff. But again my comment will be bashed because some people clearly don’t have anything better to do and I couldn’t care less. Let the haters hate says a lot about other people then me



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nico (#199820)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:27:32
@brittbritt the pattern is made in such a way that it can appear "swirling" or twitching when looked at. epilipsy is still being studied and as such not much information is public knowledge, but still images can cause seizures. luckily for me they only cause migraines but its still very bad



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NatyreWolf 🐾 (#62478)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:27:37
I don't see a single problem with the Rumble marking at all! i think Brawl marks are more of a problem, since it looks all cluttered up with tiny spots, it can get bit hard on eyes when looking for bit longer times, but I think Rumble mark doesn't compare to that at all! I'm personally not a fan of these markings, but don't mind them. I respect the work admins put into the game and its development! I think the whole drama is completely unnecessary..



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Capt fluffbutt
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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:28:04
How tf does a marking cause seizure ...trypophobia makes sense
.but seizures cuz of that marking ?!?!?!!?? Smh



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Zdie (#52994)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:28:17

“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.”



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:29:23 by Zdie (#52994)

Mandala_Side (#84114)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:28:30
disappointed but not surprised..



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☁️odium☁️cle
an svelte (#198376)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:28:36
Queen birb that’s an unfair comparison.



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Sennen hallows (#188258)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:28:55
For the people who are saying that “people just need to get over being upset about this and move on”, what is wrong with you? Like you know what put yourself in other peoples shoes, especially those who have epilepsy and other medical issues that are worsened by this applicator, this was a game that many people enjoyed and for some they can’t anymore all because of something that could be resolved in seconds. Imagine how you would feel if you were told you couldn’t play a game you enjoyed all because of something that could be easily fixed. Clearly y’all don’t have sympathy for those who have been hurt from this and it shows.

And you know what if this was happening to you I’m pretty sure you’d be saying something different.



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CleverFool (Anna) (#143108)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:29:09
@Admins :Yes, now the filter is reserved only for things that do not belong in a game like this. What I was asking for in my previous post is that you take care to keep it that way and to respect the gravity of the situations such a thing is meant to address by never diluting its list with petty censorship of acceptable speech that people are using to say something unflattering towards something official. I've been in several Clans on this site where power has gotten to Clan Admins' heads and they have used their power to silence valid criticism. I have seen you as site Admins try to be wise and just leaders, please keep it that way.



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nosey mcnoselord👃 (#179974)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:29:16
if someone has spent money on this game that they love, you can't just turn around and say "leave its your fault you have seizures" thats not how it works
firstly you cannot tell people what to do, at the end of the day, they can do whatever the fuck they want, didn't we all fight for equality.
and secondly, under no circumstance is it the persons fault. they did not ask for this to happen to them.
so people stop saying they can control it because its not very nice



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