Posted by -LOCKED - Making dwarves have a low natural pass rate

🍷Savva🍷 (#129264)

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2020-07-20 14:28:32
Hear me out!

In my opinion, there are MANY benefits to giving dwarves a pass rate similar to many current mutes in game! Somewhere between a 0.50-1% natural pass rate! How would this help you say?

Dwarves on their own are extremely expensive. and ESPECIALLY the breeding cost, not only do you have to buy a buffy ball or GoP for a decent chance at them, but you also have to buy a lion scrote; which is super expensive for a lot of players. Currently, dwarves are at their lowest point economically, and many players don't breed them anymore for that reason.

HOWEVER

If they introduce a 0.50-1% pass rate, players would be way more encouraged to breed dwarves, since the initial cost of breeding them goes down by almost 30GB! This would also greatly help the economy in MANY ways.

1. First of all, by introducing a natural pass rate, people will be encouraged like stated before to breed them. This means that MORE players would be willing to buy dwarf heats for a larger price since they have about 30GB free'd up that would've gone towards a scrote. This patch would bring another reverse heat option back into the light!

2. Second of all, a natural pass rate would make dwarves way more buyable. Players won't need to spend more then the dwarf itself each heat! And they STILL have a chance of getting a dwarf! This would greatly emphasize the profitability of dwarves and the market would have a higher average cost for them!

3. Failed heats won't discourage players as much as they do now. You get a failed dwarf heat? Thats nearly 40GB wasted in some cases, however a failed dwarf heat with a natural pass rate would not be as much as a financial blow. As in some cases people may not even waste GB in the first place!

4. Another little point I'd like to make! If dwarves had a 1%-0.50% pass rate, that still would not harm the market! Thats still a very small chance of a dwarf, even in a 4 cub litter! Which means that the price of lion scrotums wouldn't plummet and dwarves would not sink into that 'abyss' of common cheap muts!

5. In real life, dwarfism IS a genetic mutation that can pass down in humans and most animals! When parents with two copies of the same dwarfism gene mix n mingle, they have a chance of having a dwarf child; although small! Adding the small pass rate would NOT take away from the realism, because in real life, dwarfism is a genetic disorder that is passed down from parents!

Anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk, don't mind me; I'm a little stupid- this may be a terrible idea, but I'm just spitting my thoughts out there! If anyone has critique I'd love to here it <3



This suggestion has 166 supports and 3 NO supports.



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Edited on 20/07/20 @ 23:24:14 by 🍷Savva🍷 (#129264)

Kaiden (#199473)

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2020-07-20 14:33:32
Savva, I completely support this! I would like to breed my dwarf, but sadly don't have any gb to buy the items! if there were a natural pass rate a lot of players would have a dwarf or two, depending on how lucky they get.

If there was a natural pass rate added to the game, it'd be based on luck to see if you get a dwarf or not. I'd honestly be so happy if the lioden devs added this, as it'd make dwarf breeding a whole lot easier!



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Arra (#196307)

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2020-07-20 14:35:41
I'd love if they'd change it <3
It's even more realistic in my eyes if dwarfism could pass naturally!



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🍒cherry🍒 [3ros
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2020-07-20 14:35:56
I will die on this hill. Support.



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2020-07-20 14:36:22
This is super smart! I think it's a good idea, and though I've personally never actively tried to breed a dwarf, I have one and it would be nice to see some dwarfies from her even though I never have gb.



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Kxkoixmo (01.27.23
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2020-07-20 14:37:55
oh my god yes i currently have two dwarves and one is in heat tmr, i’m trying to sell my other one so i can buy lion balls 😔



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2020-07-20 14:39:40
That's a very good idea. Hybrid cubs are going for ~300GB and you only need buffy scrots and maybe black stallions to breed them. So you can have 5 failed heats and still if you sell one cub from 6th heat - you're even with the breeding cost.

Succubus and Imperials are more expensive to breed than hybrids and it's not always profitable but it could be when you have good looking lions.

Nobles are profitable.

Of course I'm assuming here that you manage to sell these bred cubs XD

But dwarfs? If you don't have very high stat ones or like combo based ones - your dwarf cub probably isn't worth more than 20-30GB. And the cost of breeding one is at least 30GB. So one failed heat and that's it. It isn't worth it at all. I mean it's so hard to sell (from what I've seen) even new combo based dwarf - breeding them is just too expensive. I want to buy a dwarf one day but like only for lore purposes xd And for not more than 20gb. I won't be breeding for dwarfs for sure.



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2020-07-20 14:42:05
yesss!!! I need this... I am giving up on my dwarves and selling them for 10gb because I can't keep up with the cost :(((



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2020-07-20 15:47:11
I wouldnt mind this happening i have had dwarves before and sold them because I have given up on breeding them as that's a huge fund waster and I do own hybrids so the funds is likely to go to them than the dwarf xD



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❣❤Queendove❤
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2020-07-20 18:37:45
> 5. In real life, dwarfism IS a genetic mutation that can pass down in humans and most animals! When parents with two copies of the same dwarfism gene mix n mingle, they have a chance of having a dwarf child; although small! Adding the small pass rate would NOT take away from the realism, because in real life, dwarfism is a genetic disorder that is passed down from parents!

Honestly I've always wonder why they weren't passed down because of genetics.



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Sea (#66539)


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2020-07-20 22:52:41
I think this sounds like a great idea!! I don't know much about economic impacts or if there would be any repercussions beyond what you discussed, but taking it at face-value it sounds perfect! Plus I feel like there would be more pretty dwarfs if they were just a tad more common. A lot of the beans I see tend to be more potaoey and not really worth having except for their mutation.



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2020-07-20 22:55:36
While this would make dwarves slightly more common, it would be nice to be able to skip the scrot and still not waste the heat.

While hybrids are rare because lions scrots cannot be used on them, dwarves would still not be bound by this restriction, so I don't think it would increase the value of dwarves. However, I feel this would prevent dwarves from being a money sink.



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★ jayfern!! [blm]
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2020-07-20 23:04:37
it would be nice for dwarf breeders just breeding the dwarf to breed it, but keep in mind that it might just sink the value due to it being a passable mutation. though i guess because it is extremely low, people would still be able to sell them for some gb.
i don't think it would necessarily help the market get back up to what it used to be, but it might allow it to stay at a 10-20gb value
but i still support this nonetheless!!



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Edited on 20/07/20 @ 23:04:58 by ★ jay!! [blm] ★ (#173983)

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2020-07-20 23:08:42
Market is already crashed so I don't care at this point, just want to breed my dwarf without either shelling out 30 gb each time or wasting the heat :P



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Allen 🐾 (#130883)

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2020-07-20 23:20:44
I just want to say that the math is wrong for the probability (a 50% chance twice doesn't mean 100% guaranteed, for example) but still no support regardless. Dwarves are already really cheap to come by, we really don't need more of them being bred.

It would also be extremely financially unsound to use a buff on every heat without the use of a lion scrot. There's a reason why 1% VLF's take 100s of tries being bred - at least with the use of a lion scrotum you have a higher chance of making some of your money back.



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❣❤Queendove❤
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2020-07-20 23:26:49
I feel like this may help the market?

Like right now there isn't really a benefit for breeding a dwarf. No one wants to buy one unless they are new player or they are special based / high stats, or they just happen to have everything to breed a dwarf.

Having the low percentage of it passing without a lion balls (and an increase chance w/ lion balls) would make them more valued because they would be worth breeding. People would be more inclined to buy a dwarf if they knew they didn't have to shell out 18+ for lion balls every single time they bred the dwarf. Consider most dwarfs go around the price or lower in order to sell more easily.



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Edited on 20/07/20 @ 23:28:22 by 🌹Queendove🌹 (#45404)



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