I feel like the 2GB rule also damages the thread as it may encourage people to send only 2GB as they don’t want to risk a major loss

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So, if the 2 GB rule damages it, should we look into raising the minimum? I'm a bit confused. Also, people have always gifted 2 GB, even before I made the reminder announcement. Either way, I don't really feel as if that's a good choice of decision, because it corners off people from the thread. 2 GB is already a lot for some people, and it's not a rich gifting thread. It's just a gifting thread, and like I said before, you give what you can! Sure, it's high-stake, but you shouldn't be giving or 'gambling' as some have put it, if you can't afford it. There's nothing wrong with that, either! There's times I can't afford it in the slow event months, but I'm excited for Feb since I'll have some extra pocket money for this.

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I've been thinking about this-and I think the rule is *okay* as long as it isn't abused? Like, one person consistently gifting 2gb over and over again, like I feel like an effort should be made first but if it isn't affordable to the person then 2gb is fine if you understand what I'm saying?

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Yes! And I'm thinking of forming some kind of rule against obvious abuse of the system. I'm thinking one strike?

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How would that be moderated? If people don't report being gifted 2gb seeing as it isn't against the rules? And most people wouldn't state that they'd gifted 2gb /genQ

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I think staff and I would keep a watchful eye out for it, like if it's obvious it was abuse.

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@EVERYONE

IMPORTANT REMINDER IN REGARDS TO HARD LISTS:
Please keep in mind for hard lists that have not been edited or given warnings that if the list stalls the thread, you hold the right to send 2 GB the keep the thread moving, despite if their list states anything like "5 GB Minimum" in their easy section. This is the only void to going 'off-list' if it is asked for no surprises. Also acknowledge that lists are for you to give participants something that they need or have been hoping for. Do not just send 2 GB as a low-effort gift or to "get it over with." If that's all you can honestly do, there is no shame and it's still appreciated! Just be aware there is no pressure to participate if you can't, taking a break from things is healthy and sometimes even the best choice of action. Repeated gifting of 2 GB will be acknowledged and if you abuse this, one strike will be added to your tally.

Strikes given will be at staff's discretion, contact me if you believe you've been treated unfairly and we will sort it out as a group in private.

- Kio and staff

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yeah i think y’all that were saying “there should be an amount of time you have to wait before you send 2 GB” werent thinking of the fact that that could lead to a less rich player NEVER being able to gift someone because other people took the rule. yeah it’s high stake but i’ve always liked this thread because, like kiosko said, it’s not “gifting thread for the billionaires of lioden”

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To be honest i kinda started this problem after I gifted Solar 2 gb when they asked for three. It was all I had at the time and I wanted to participate!

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No you didn't start it at all! I didn't mind at all that i got 2gb from you. I just think that getting it a few times in a row (not just you) Is rather annoying and some players may try to abuse it :))

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I wasn’t trying to abuse it, I just couldn’t give anything else

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I never said you were? I was happy with the gift as it helps me save up for my pons heats :)

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No sorry, I was just zoning out and didn’t realize what I was typing. I’m super tired but I have to work with children for another two hours

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Its fine, and man that sounds painful lmao, i dislike little kids

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aw man, i love kids! theyre so funny and have no filter
they can be so brutal

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