First off; congrats! Figured I'd comment since I got a FGP recently and while not the same, the general process is roughly the same! This is all off of the top of my head so like.... make sure you double check these things LMAO but it's been roughly my experience with first gens ^^

> Selling : This is definitely an option! I'll detail later on how expensive a first gen can be, but if you do think about selling, IIRC first gens usually sell around 2K GB~ (give or take for heritage/age), so definitely don't underprice if so! 83

> Hanging on : I know some people who do change the base color of their first gens, either to try for combo bases or just to make em pretty! In the end, its your gon, and what you do with em is completely up to you! There's pros and cons to both - I believe most people value first gens more with their original breed only marks and base - without them, unless your FGG is truly super special (for example, you RMA a new rare marking or something like that onto em, or the base is a combo base factor and that person specifically wants a combo base gon), most people will gravitate to another FGG with their original base for a heat.

In terms of overhaul, like mentioned before - the common process with first gens is to start RMAing! I definitely felt weary adding marks onto my FGP (there's something so special about the original look), but if you want more valuable offspring AND to charge more for heats - try to RMA on tier 2/3 (breed only, some tier 3s are breed only and some aren't, make sure to check the wiki!) and rosette markings onto em. It's definitely not cheap either.. aha.... (sweats in 1400GB in RMAS, this is where things can get very pricey for you), but ... in theory... you can.. get cool marks... .. (my FGP is almost fully breed only now B))

> Heats : Tigon heats work like other hybrids and lions - the cooldown is 20 days, and if they don't go into heat once they hit 2 years old, use a zebra heart on them to make them go into heat so you can maximize their heats! First gen hybrids have a 10% chance of producing a hybrid (compared to 5% for non first gens i believe??), and the mutation rolls PER cub so you'll ALWAYS want to use a Buffalo Scrotum to maximize your chances of a gon and an Instant Birth Feather to make sure the cooldowns don't affect her lifespan + future heats!

It's fine to sell heats (either reverse or traditional), split or otherwise, and you CAN plan ahead - though make sure you stick to your word ^^" Honestly I'd say only sell them when the heat is coming up... especially if your rollover schedule is not consistant.

Most owners of first gens also freeze their hybrids to preserve their lifespan (ie: keeping them on an account they don't roll over), and then sell barked heats during February to make GB :p Free split barked breedings are pretty popular - user who brings the barks get first pick and the owner gets second and then they alternate - so if the hybrid pops two hybrids, both users get one and at no cost to the original owner too ;)

Some people with first gens who have multiple rosettes try for multi rosette hybrids which can sell for a pretty penny (triple rosette pons can go for 800GB~, not sure about gons) but the cost of a buffy (20-30GB) + gnaws (currently 60GB PER) + barks if they're not waiting or mass breeding (20 barks = 300-500GB depending on the month) = around 450-650GB per breeding... ah....... @.@ (this is also why you should farm for barks/buffies/gnaws when the event rolls around...)

> Appearance : You can use an Eye of the Kitten (bought from oasis for like 1GB) to keep her looking like a newborn - it won't affect her breedability and she'll age like normal. It's just a cosmetic item.

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Honestly, even though the RMA's sound pricey, I'm kinda into that, now that I know what is best to do for a Tigon! I've always wanted a reason to play with the gamble of RMA's, and I never felt like I had a good reason to do it personally unless it was profitable, because it would be frustrating trying to get a good look and failing so much. If it was a more sought-after lion I'd be more into it, and I've never really had much luck with selling lions. I barely get studs on my kings, lol.

As much as I consider myself a casual player, I'm also an adult with money and don't mind dropping some dosh for gold beetles every now and then to support this Tigon. It sounds like a fun project that I could actually handle, and I don't feel obligated to "fight the market" as hard as some folks because...heck it's a Tigon! And even if I never get another one from her, I like that I can freeze her so she'll always be on my page as a trophy when she's retired. I have been saving a canopic jar for a long time, but if there's a way to freeze them, that's something that will satisfy me!

Is there an item to keep them in just the cub stage? The newborn is cute but I prefer the cub.

Thank you so much for all your help!

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Hi hi! I'm not a super experienced hybrid breeder or anything like that yet, but I've been very interested in the mutation side of in Lioden ever since I joined, and have read a lot about this topic- in fact, I just bred my own first gen pon (here's the baby teehee) quite recently and have a plan made for them already, so I thought I'd give you my two cents :D

Q1; Selling/Keeping
· You should not sell her, or at least not yet- first gens can definitely sell for a lot, but you'd probably be able to make a lot more than what you could sell her for by keeping her and selling her heats/her hybrid children (moreso her hybrid children) if you do a little bit of planning.

Q2; Appearance Changes
· Please do not completely rehaul her current appearance! The mandarin base, while having a very low pass rate, can be inherited by her children. Hybrid mothers have a slightly higher rate at passing the mandarin base, so you're best to keep it. And, as it's categorized as a special base, it'll improve the chances of her offspring getting a breed-only or rare base.

· Do not remove her mottled stripe markings as they cannot be applied, even through random marking applicators. Their origins are tigon exclusive, though they can be passed down onto offspring. Due to her being a hybrid, she'll also have a slightly higher chance on passing down her mottled stripe markings to offspring than non-tigon parents.

· I would also not change her mane or her eyes as nacarat as it is a breed-only mane and sunglow eyes are event-exclusive. These traits, unlike mottled stripes or the mandarin base, are not tigon exclusive, yet are still somewhat difficult to come by so I would advise against changing them.

· You could change her mane shape type (not mane colour) if you wanted to and her skin colour as these can be custom applied and are not breed-only or tigon exclusive.

· You can definitely add more markings to her, just don't remove her mottled stripes! You could remove her white understripes if you wanted as they're only tier 1 (custom markings), and thus could be reapplied via the marking applicator from the oasis. What some people do, and what I'm working on doing, is filling up all their first gen marking slots (aside from the breed only / hybrid exclusive marks) with tier 6 marks (random marking applicator exclusive marks)! This method can be quite expensive though as it's roughly 20 random marking applicators to get one tier 6 mark (5% rate) and you'd also need to purchase marking removals.

· You could also apply other applicator markings, like crafted or event marks, to pretty her up :) I'm not doing that personally as I'm fixated on making my pon have only breed only / hybrid exclusive / random marking applicator exclusive marks, but adding more markings in general will probably help make any non-tigon cubs she produces more pretty/valuable depending on what markings you apply.

Q3; Heats
· I'm not too experienced with this part of hybrid breeding as I don't plan on giving away or selling my heats, the user above explained it better than I could lol

Q4; Special Appearance Items
· Using items to change her appearance/age/gender pose will NOT affect or remove your ability to breed her, it's purely cosmetic!

· You can buy all of the pose changer items from the Oasis. Eye of the Kitten [cub newborn], Eye of the Youth [cub young], Eye of the Fierce Roar [cub], Tigers Eye [adolescent], and Lab Test Frog [would pose her as a male for the adult pose, there is no lineart different for the other ages in tigons I believe] are all the possible items you could use.

· Note that Eye of the Kitten, Eye of the Youth and Eye of the Fierce Roar are listed under the decoration tab in the Oasis, while the Tigers Eye and Lab Test Frog are listed under the customisation tab currently!

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· Not really answering any questions, I just thought I'd give ya my plan for how I'm going to handle my first generation leopon to give you some ideas! This may change but for now I've figured that I'll keep him on my main account unfrozen until they become two years old/"an adult lioness"- you could technically use an aging stone and an aging crystal to insta age your gon up but I'm trying to save my gold beetles lol. I will then zebra heart them, assuming they are not in heat when they become an adult, breed them with a buffalo scrotum to ensure three cubs, and instant birth feather them. I will wait for the duration of the breeding cooldown then breed with a buffy + ibf for a few more heats (3-4 heats, so half of their natural heats) in an attempt to get a few hybrids from them as I would like at least one hybrid before I freeze them. Speaking of which, once I've gone through a few of their heats I will be moving them to my alternative account to freeze/pause their aging, and would only unfreeze them during a few days each February when I can bark them and get a few litters out of them. Others may sell barked split heats.

· TLDR; keep your g1 tigon and probably freeze them later (or sell them after you've gotten a few hybrids off them), do not change the base or remove the mottled stripes, and probably don't remove the eyes or mane colour. The reasons for this are explained above but I know a typed a lot lol

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Oh wow, Thank you as well, Xyla! Your post was also super helpful. I didn't realize so many of her attributes were worth keeping. I'm glad I didn't touch her yet!

I do want to change her up a bit, but I'll wait and breed her how she is. I would totally use an aging stone but I'm not sure I'm ready for her to be in heat yet. But hopefully by the end of the month I can do that!

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Hey! Congrats on your lil gal! Lemme try my best to answer ur questions. I've also got my own first gen tigon so i think I'm qualified haha.

first of all, a newborn first generation tigon can sell for roughly 1500 GB.Things that affect this number for better or for worse is length of heritage and if she's clean or not. Your girl is clean G5, meaning she's gonna be on the higher end when it comes to prices!
Selling or not is COMPLETELY up to you: what would you enjoy more? Having her or boatloads of GB? remember that she can pass her mutation onto cubs, so she can be profitable as well, by selling her cubs. especially during February first gen hybrids are quite profitable- tigons not as much as leopons, but you can still earn a pretty penny from selling barked breedings.

Customisation: Once again, your tigon your choices. however, I would not recommend removing the mandarin base, ESPECIALLY if you're gonna try to sell her. If you remove the base and then decide you want to sell her, chances are most people wont be interested or the price will be severely affected.
Clones of first gen tigons can sell from 50-100 GB i believe. remove the base and its just another lion with mottled stripes.
Her base can indeed pass to her offspring, tigons and non-tigons alike, and i saw a tigon cub with the mandarin base selling for around 600 GB not long ago.
Some people base change their first gen hybrids SPECIFICALLY to try and breed a combo based hybrid: I believe this was actually achieved once with a soul based leopon, born from a first gen leopon who had her base changed. Even so I wouldnt recommend doing this, because its really risky and a lot of people might not be interested in heats from your tigon if she's missing the tigon exclusive base.
this doesnt mean u cant customize her though! Add marks as much as you want, I'd just recommend leaving her eyes, mottled stripes, base and mane color alone. those are breed only and cannot be reapplied if you remove them.
A great, but extremely expensive way of customising is using random marking applicators. you can get rare breed only markings (0.5% chance) and rosette markings (0.2% chance). Trying to get breed only markings onto first gens is extremely expensive and time consuming but it could make your tigon more rare and unique- and if you get for example a rosette, her clones would skyrocket in price too. I personally enjoy this method but again, only do it if you dont mind losing hundreds of GB in the process. It took me 700 RMAs (1400 GB because you need a marking remover for every RMA!) before i got my first breed only marking onto my first gen leopon. (Note i was extremely unlucky, thats like almost 3.5 times over odds, but still- heed my warning lol)

You can sell heats yeah, up to you. Regardless, i recommend that you use an instant cub delivery on every pregnancy- not because it isnt fun to wait, but because over time the amount of rollovers u save by not having to go trough the pregnancy gives your tigon time in her life for another heat!
as for price, natural first gen hybrid heats can probably sell for about 100 GB ish, if not more. if you're gonna use her heats yourself, the main thing you should always use is a buffalo scrotum to give yourself the best chance of tigon offspring, the rest is preference and optional.
if youre not online a lot, dont worry! if anything thats just a plus, since that means she wont age as quickly and maybe she'll still be alive when february rolls around when yohimbe barks and buffalo scrotums are available. i'd just recommend, if you do a waiting list, to let people know that theres gonna be an extra wait since you dont rollover everyday. just be transparent and keep people updated and then everything should be fine.

The item that makes her stay a baby is purely visual/cosmetic, it does not affect being able to breed her what so ever! She will still age, just look smol. You buy those items in the oasis for 1 GB: "Eye of the firece roar", "Eye of the kitten" and "Eye of the youth" makes her appear as the cub, cub newborn, and cub young respectively.

I hope that answers your questions okay! And once again congrats on your tigon baby.

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That's valid! RMAs are very fun but also hell because buying them and applying them is a brain melting pain - pro tip: use the back button when mass buying rmas! It'll reselect the amount of RMAs + removers you want for you :'D wrist saving tip !

My general motto for RMAs is the lion has to be - special base or very near and dear to me, clean and early gen, and the RMAs will up their worth x'D keeps me from RMAing everything in sight. Definitely don't hope for a good look though... sometimes RMAing is getting the ugliest marking and sighing. And then deleting the BO mark and trying for something prettier HAHAHAHHA (fuck you bushveld specifically - it does NOT slay on golden bases) (speaking from experience)

As for selling things, a lot of it is just perseverance and advertising a whole lot. It's also why I don't participate much in the market x'D (too lazy to advertise)

As an entirely free to play player, I can't really say anything about spending real life dollydoos but I wish you luck! And make good financial decisions o7 gatcha is rough sometimes, and breed only marks and rosettes are a (iirc) 0.5% and a 0.2% chance respectively. It's gunna be a long ride, don't break your bank while you're at it. And! If you plan on spending, do it during sales ;) get that extra GB! most of the money spending users I know buy on black friday only, so they can also get extra items with their purchases hehe)

And yeah!! I plan on freezing my FGP once she passes, it's always a good trophy hehe. For cub stage, I think it's just Eye of the Fierce Roar? Also in oasis for 1GB :3

And NP! :D My FGP for reference too 83 > The Scrunklydoo

Shoutout to the tiny bit of code for fucking up my reply like 3x times @.@

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can I ask how many projects it took to finally achieve this first gen? I'm trying to start one myself and want an overall estimate of how long it will take

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@ El Tigre

I wish I had a better answer for you, but I genuinely got my first Tigon out of sheer luck. I used an elderly lioness, 1% fert, and a lion meat. She wasn't even one of my females that I was necessarily trying super hard to get one on, she didn't even have a CRB. I know this anniversary event had "upped" chances of muts, so I was just using whatever breeding or fert items I had on random lions of mine that I thought looked nice. It was completely unexpected from her!

I see people suggest to use lion meats or gmo cows, low fert, CRBs, etc. I truly think I got super lucky here!

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wow thats really lucky! congrats!

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Yep! I also got my FGP entirely out of sheer luck (not even during the anniversary event LMAO) using a GMO o7

I know users who do CRB runs though and it generally took from 500-1200~ runs depending on their luck for them to get a first gen!

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I didn't notice anyone mentioning it, but when breeding her, the crunchy worms helps her pass a clone

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