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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-04 18:08:24
I want an item which shoes what the lion would look like if they had X mutation, on the lion page.

Someone might ask, " What about custom decor?! "


Well, some lethal muties are near impossible to recreate as custom decor as some need removal of body parts from the base, and eyeless is near impossible to create as custom decor. Yes in theory you could create a lethal mut lookalike by replacing parts that don't belong on the lethal mut with the default background, however that only restricts us to the default background for it to look accurate and good.

Eyeless could be just a colored fur over the eyes, sure, but by doing that, we would also have to have the base matching the color we use for it to look exactly like the lion has the eyeless mutation.

A point of fake mutation custom decors is most likely roleplay or player lore. Say a lion lived despite having a lethal mutation into adulthood, or an eyeless/blind lion somehow hunt or became king/queen/sovereign of their pride. I also think the item should also have ability to show cub lethal mutations when you applied an eye of the kitten to your lion, and the mutation shown would be a drop down box.



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Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)

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2023-10-04 18:34:07
Just sounds like a nice easy way to scam new players who don't know better. Pretty sure there have already been cases where people apply a translucent jellyfish and an achromia/melanism hybrid custom decor to a regular lion and try to sell it as a "hybrid".



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Vulpine-Poltergeist (#1073)

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2023-10-04 18:44:16
No support - like Terrinthia said, people have tried scamming unsuspecting users already with translucent jellyfish and custom decor. This would just make those scams easier, especially when (not if) less well-meaning users would use this to their advantage.

While it is unfortunate to want a mutated lion for lore reasons and not have one, this 'solution' would only worsen certain scams.



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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2023-10-04 21:04:39
Agreeing with the above- this site is not meant to be a roleplay/lore sim where you can design your perfect magic/mythical character and roleplay as them. It's a semirealistic lion sim with a market that people sink time and money into. This feature would be extremely exploitable and undermine so many breeding mechanics, and is not at all how the game is designed to be played. If you want to dress up your lions with rare mutations/BO traits/whatever characteristic, there's always the lion wardrobe, and if you want to actually play as that lion, you can absolutely just pay someone to draw them up as a CD for you.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-05 17:51:52
Some mutations aren't feasible as cd. If an item is used, it would say on top of the lion page that the lion has a decor used to look like a lion with X mutation! As to make it less common for a newbie to get scammed.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-05 17:54:29
And people can mistake your lion's true looks as the lion on top of your lion stats, with the lion image on the bio of your lion. Yes, linking in label is possible, but labels most likely have text limit and it would be more useful as some info like what type of fairy the lion is than what your lion looks like as in lore



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🧡 leon | semi
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2023-10-06 00:27:50
There are jellyfish CDs that are entire fullbody characters with a translucent jellyfish applied to make the actual lion invisible. I think that's what they mean.

It's just against the point of Lioden. Want muties without the work or investment.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-06 07:54:45
This won't make your lion the mut you want, it will showcase your lion as the mutation you selected, but they'll still be the mutation before applying decor.



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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2023-10-06 08:45:17
But there would be no point for actually breeding for mutations since you can just make your lion have whatever mutation you want anyway. The only benefits to this are from a roleplaying/lore perspective which is not central to the point of this game. Every downside I can see is massively detrimental to the balance of the game as a whole.



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🧡 leon | semi
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2023-10-06 09:11:04
The vast majority of mutations on Lioden are only visual anyway. Bob tail, overgrown tongue, polycaudal, foldies, achromia, female primals except ferus, etc etc etc. Arguably even lethals. None can pass naturally, they just sit around and look pretty.

If you can just make any lion look like these visual mutations? It's just pointless like Entity said.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-06 14:55:03
It would only be able to showcase semi-lethal and lethal mutation.



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🧡 leon | semi
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2023-10-06 15:01:59
Your post does not say that and uses a mutation that's not lethal at all as an example.

I think that's an even bigger no support, unfortunately. The entire point of lethals is that they're trophies. They sit there and look pretty. An item that can just replicate that makes them effectively pointless—and good for scamming.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-10-06 15:20:40
I said semi-lethals ( not able to be kinged able to hunt etc. ) and lethals.

There'd still be a header on top of the lion page that said that the lion has a decor applied which looks like the mut.

Lethals have a fun gimmick that can't be replicated with any item, yes, you can replicate them with a manual process, but that's not the gimmick I'm talking about, they have an automatic death at a certain rollover since they were born, no player intervention, just they die quicker than every other mutie and non-mutie without player intervention ( Ie. Kill button, nature reserve, letting starve/boredom kick in, etc )



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Edited on 06/10/23 @ 15:20:53 by Readytest (#431796)

Vulpine-Poltergeist (#1073)

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2023-10-06 15:31:34
And that is why people freeze them, so that they don't die.

No support as, even with the banner, it could still be used to scam people since many may take the banner as a "this lion has been frozen" banner- not every user thoroughly reads the lion's info before buying, and sometimes there may be mistakes even if they do. It's not hard to gloss over a tiny banner, I've definitely done it a few times over my almost 11 years playing LD.

It would also tank the current value of the lethally mutated lions people have worked hard for, sometimes spending hundreds of in-game and real-life currency to breed- and even if this proposed item was either incredibly rare or highly priced, that still would harm people's genuine efforts to get those genuine mutated lions.

It may be unfortunate that they cannot be kinged, but that is just how it is- plus, it would only last for a single king anyways, as mutations are wiped even if you kept your current king's looks. It makes no sense to king a lion and only have the mutation temporarily, when you could freeze them and keep them around for as long as Lioden exists.



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🧡 leon | semi
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2023-10-06 15:44:59
I have never heard the term semi-lethal in my 3+ years, and it doesn't make any sense. They're not lethal; they can't be kinged. I apologize if it's an actual term used but I've never encountered it and they're not lethal at all just because they can't be kinged.

It just seems... pointless and harmful for all the reasons already stated. But you'll keep going no matter what people tell you lol, and chase your bliss I guess, troll or not.



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Kit (#82126)


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2023-10-06 17:33:19
I just make them how I want in the wardrobe and put that pic in my lion's description. It's not ideal, no, but it's something you can do without effecting other players.

And as much as I really want a Sirenomelia cub, I know something like what you're suggesting is not a feasible way to get one.



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Edited on 06/10/23 @ 17:52:32 by Kit (#82126)







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