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Posted on
2024-04-27 08:08:28

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Hello hello! Recently I’ve kinged my first basic primal in a while, and since no one really knows the pass rates, I thought, why not try and calculate them myself? This project was partially inspired by a much older, now dead project with the same goal. Unfortunately I cannot find it to link it, but if I do come across it I definitely will!
Now, onto the actual process.

✦ Overview
The basic idea is that every day, I will claim as many NCLs as I can and breed them. On the day that they give birth, I will take the data and put it in the spreadsheet, before chasing and claiming new NCLs. Hopefully, after a couple weeks of breeding and chasing, the odds will make themselves clear. I plan to breed at least 100 batches (could be well over 1,000 cubs!), or just until this king retires. But either way, hopefully it will be enough cubs to have a fairly accurate estimate of all the odds.

✦ Items & Necessities
As this is a project that heavily focuses on breeding, nesting material is an extremely important resource. I myself am going to try to get as many nests as possible, however donations are always greatly appreciated! Food has never been a scarce recourse for me personally, though I will always keep an eye on how the project is affecting my supply.

Anyone who donates will have first dibs on any muties that are born! This can include both primal and random muts, as well as any primal variations born as well. All muties will come free of charge, of course.

✦ Records
All the fun and interesting records can be found in the master spreadsheet! However, slightly more in-depth records for every batch can be found in the spoiler below as well.


✦ What Can I Do?
I’ve thought about this quite a bit, and although I was initially against the idea, I think that it would be great if other people shared the results of their primal breedings as well! More cubs being born means more cubs to add to the data pool, which means we’ll get that much closer to finding the actual odds! A couple rules first, though:

  • The king used MUST be a basic primal. Primal variations may mess with the data
  • Please note that only males can pass the mutation, and the data is void if only the mother is a primal
  • Similarly, the mother must not be a ferus, as that is the only primal variation that actually can pass from a female. This will also mess with the data
  • PLEASE DO NOT ONLY SHARE SUCCESSES!! This one is very important I think, as only sharing breedings where an actual primal was born and not sharing failures can cause an uneven balance and give us the wrong percentage. We want to be as accurate as possible, don’t we?
  • You do not have to be consistent with sharing your breedings! Even sharing just once or twice is helpful, since it means that there will be more cubs to use for data!
  • Do not send me your cubs! Please share using the form, I do not need the actual cubs

If you’ve read and understand the rules, please feel free to share your breedings using the form below! Any data submitted will be added in the spreadsheet under today’s batch with my own data, as creating a separate table or row for shared breedings is a bit unnecessary, at least for this project.

Total cubs:
Primals:
Felises:
Smiluses:
Fangs:

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Edited on 08/06/24 @ 06:51:00 by End. | 4x BO + 3x ROS Ebony (#224278)

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Posted on
2024-05-15 04:42:52

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Hiatus Notice
Due to May’s Punk Breeding Challenge and a shortage of territory space and nests on my end, I will be pausing this project until I am either done with the challenge, or May ends. Any shared litters will be added to Batch 23, when this project resumes. I am also going to be inactive for 9 days starting Friday, so any donations shared during that time will only be updated once I am back.
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Edited on 15/05/24 @ 04:48:34 by End. | 4x BO + 3x ROS Ebony (#224278)

Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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Posted on
2024-05-17 05:56:25
Batch:
NCLs: 61
Total cubs: 92
Primals: 2
Felises: 0
Smiluses: 0
Fangs: 1



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Posted on
2024-06-07 04:39:44
This project is back on! So sorry about the delay
@Shadow thank you so much for your data, it’s been added to the spreadsheet ^^

Batch: 23
NCLs: 11
Total cubs: 20
Total female: 14
Total male: 6
Primals (f:m): 0:1
Felises (f:m): 0:0
Smiluses: 1
Fangs (f:m): 0:0



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Rae 🇵🇸 (#236640)

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Posted on
2024-06-07 10:24:09
Not sure if my data will be helpful because a lot of my Primal Ferus king’s cubs were killed, out of 23 living cubs he passed 4 primal and 1 ferus. I know he sired at LEAST 50 cubs but like i said a lot were killed as i do remember him passing a couple Primal Fangs as well. Wish this had gone when i had him as king!



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Posted on
2024-06-07 10:58:18
@Rae
Thank you so much for the contribution, but unfortunately I won’t be able to use it since a lot of the cubs were killed and it could skew the data. Similarly, primal variants have slightly different pass rates, and it could also mess with the numbers a bit. Thanks so much anyways though! ^^



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Posted on
2024-06-08 06:51:08
Batch: 24
NCLs: 10
Total cubs: 19
Total female: 16
Total male: 3
Primals (f:m): 1:0
Felises (f:m): 0:0
Smiluses: 0
Fangs (f:m): 0:1



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