Posted by Pigeon Fancy!- Free art game

Kamen Rex (#9488)

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2014-07-03 05:04:57

THIS TOPIC IS CURRENTLY CLOSED.



Please do NOT post requests for crosses until it opens again.



.::Pigeon Fancy!::.



I love pigeons, and I like pigeon genetics. So I thought it might be fun to give myself some practice drawing and interpreting Pigeon genetics through a fun free game that gives people free art to put in their dens. :3

~How To Play~



1. Every so often I will post new "Breeding Stock". These will be example pigeons that are sorted into males and female (cocks and hens) and listed by the fancier notation ( EX: Blue Bar Splash).

2. I will not revel the genotypes of any of the birds, so only their phenotypes will be known! (IE: I wont tell you what alleles they have like BB or Bb etc.) Muahaha! Mystery!

3. You pick which birds you want to be crossed (EX: Hen A with Cock B), and I will calculate the possible genotype outputs and post an image of the new baby bird(s). The offspring will be a randomly rolled bird based on the possible combinations.

4. Who ever asked for the cross gets to keep the image of the baby bird and can put it in their den fi they like! It's your own personal baby pigeon. :3 (Note: The same pair can be crossed several times, you wont' always get the same looking pigeon! ;) )

5. Then, if you want, the pigeon you bred can be added to the Breeding Stock and other people can cross Stock pigeons with yours (with your permission) or even their own birds.

6. Try your luck to see if you can figure out what genotypes the pigeons have! (This part isn't necessary, but it can be fun to tease out the many different possible combos.)


It will start out fairly simple as far as patterns and colors go, but as more people get interested I'll add fancier birds! I also promise surprises and mystery. You may end up finding odd surprises when you cross two ordinary looking birds. ;)

~Rules~



1. Please be kind, patient, and polite. Realize that I am busy with real life and especially school. I will do my best to check this regularly and post new cross requests and Breeding Stock, but sometimes stuff happens.

2. You are free to keep the art of the baby that was bred from your cross request and even post it in your den! Just make sure to credit me as the artist, and it would be super awesome fi you would provide a link back to this thread. ;)

3. Please only request 1 cross at a time. Wait for your cross to be completed and posted before you send another request.



~Q&A~



1. Oh cool! Do I own the pigeon I crossed or do I have to pay?
--- Nope! It's totally free of charge. As soon as I post your bird he/she is free for you to use. ;) I don't mind getting a tip every now and again though, but you're not obligated to pay a thing!
2. Do Stock birds retire?
--Again, nope! If they are from the stock I post they never "retire". So birds from Stock 1 will be available to bred with birds from any other stock forever!
3. Someone already requested my desired cross.. Does this mean I have to request a different one?
-- Nope! There are many possible outcomes from any given cross, even if the same 2 birds are crossed. So even if someone else has requested the same cross as you, you are welcome to request it again. It is actually recommended that the same pairs be crossed several times in order to "cheat out" the genotypes of the birds. ;)
4. Why is it called pigeon "fancy"? o.O
--What? You don't think pigeons are fancy?! No but seriously.. It's called Pigeon Fancy because people who raise and breed pigeons are called Pigeon Fanciers. I do fancy myself a good pigeon cross, don't you?

Like kitty cats? Then check out Kitty Cat Frenzy!.

~Cross Requests~


1. Queen Halloween [TNS] (#23249) requests: Cock 1 A + Hen 1 B DONE
2. Griff (#26694) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 B DONE
3. Nate'sGotaHusbandNamedAlan (#24056) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 A DONE

4. AzurePegasus [CSO] (#30305) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 B DONE
5. Duchess CrazyLola {TRA} (#22294) requests: Cock 1 A with Hen 1 A DONE
6. Mysterious (#5363) requests: Cock 1 A + Hen 1 B DONE
7. Ras (#32083) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 B DONE

8. Argulor {TNS, MP} (#22920) requests: Cock 1 C + Hen 1 B DONE
9. Linker (#6891) requests: Cock 1 C + Hen 1 B DONE
10. Ronnie J (MMF/C.T/LAWS) (#1393) requests: Cock 1 C + Hen 1 D DONE

11. Dam (#7325) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 B DONE
12. Duchess CrazyLola {TRA} (#22294) requests: Cock 1 A with Hen 1 B DONE
13. Griff (#26694) requests: Cock 1 A+ their bird (Hen 1 C) DONE
14. Tserin [Turtle] (#2230) requests: Cock 1 C + Hen 1 DDONE

15. Nate'sGotaHusbandNamedAlan (#24056) requests: Cock 1 A + hen 1 D DONE
16. Ventriloquist (#234) requests: Cock 1 A +Hen 1 B DONE
17. Vixxie (200-reds!) {KOS} (#6468) requests: Cock 1 A + Hen 1 B DONE
18. PlaguedRuby (#26260) requests: Cock 1 C + Hen 1 C DONE
19. Ayin(6/13 GB) (#24241) requests: Cock 1 B + Hen 1 B DONE

20. Tufty (#29680) requests: Cock 1 D + Hen 1 B DONE
21. Summer's Eve Side (#29277) requests: Cock 1 A + Hen 1 C DONE
22. Joker {VV | COF | AF} 1/12 GB (#24815) requests: Cock 1 D + Hen 1 A DONE
23. Nyanunix {C.o.F} (#11487) requests: Cock 1 D + Hen 1 C DONE
24. Akachi (#27613) requests: Cock 1 D + Hen 1 D DONE


25. Ayin(6/13 GB) (#24241) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 B DONE
26. AzurePegasus [CSO] (#30305) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 B
27. PlaguedRuby (#26260) requests: Ferdinand +Hen 1 D
Griff (#26694) requests: Ferdinand +Hen 2B
28. Duchess CrazyLola {TRA} (#22294) requests: Cock 2 A + Hen 2 A

29. Destiny- Semi-Weekend Hiatus (#17200) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 A
30. SootSprite~A Calico Breeder (#28010) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 B
31. Izabella_Gurly (MMF)(KOS)(NHF) (#35396) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 B
32. Eva (#26452) requests: Cock 2 B + Hen 2 A

33.DreamEater{LLC}{LSoA} (#31735) requests: Cock 2B+ Hen 2B
34.Sunita (#14734) requests: Cock 2B + Hen 2B
35.darkspookers (#33859) requests: Ferdinand + Hen 2 A
36.Joker {VV | COF | AF} 1/12 GB (#24815) requests: Cock2B + Hen2A


Update!


As of now, the breeding results as well as previous Stocks can be found in the pick-up thread linked below.

clicky!

~Breeding Results~

clicky!

4th of July Event pigeon!


~Ferdinand~


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Ferdinand is an Ember Blue Bar Splash Cock with Orange eyes.
Woo! That's a mouthful!



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Edited on 05/08/14 by Kamen Rex[Teostra-EVIL] (#9488)

Dam (#7325)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 11:51:26
I'm transferring you a little something for your time! Yaay I can't wait to see mine. 8D



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DatCrazyLola (#22294)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 11:52:21
Okay :)

Cock 1 A with Hen 1 B



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Griff 🐈 (#26694)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 11:53:33
I'd like to breed my hen [1C] to cock 1A, let's see what crops up there XD.



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✷ Tserin (#2230)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 11:55:59
I really like this idea c: Could I cross Hen 1D and Cock 1C?



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Kamen Rex (#9488)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:03:40
Woo! So much pigeon luff.
It certainly takes a good bit of work on my part to do all of these, but I find it fun and I love that you guys are so excited for your birdies. xD <3

2 more blocks of requests went up! 7 more birdies to make! o.o

We're gonna need a bigger thread...
Or at least a separate one for the Breeding results. XD Once we hit 10 completed requests I think I'll post another thread for "pick up" to help keep the front page of this thread from getting ridiculously long.



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DatCrazyLola (#22294)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:04:39
You should o-o Definitely. Then we can chat over there too lol



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Griff 🐈 (#26694)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:05:33
It's really fun to see the results of this :D and I will be sending you something for your time, cause I get some pretty birdies for my profile out of this :D

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They look really adorable at 200x200. I can put a few of them in there without taking up too much space XD.



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Edited on 03/07/14 by Griff (#26694)

Ras (#32083)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:16:03
Just wondering where you learned all you pigeon genetic stuff? I'm getting Saint pigeons and I want to know what I'll get when I breed them XD



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Kamen Rex (#9488)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:38:17
Ooo, Saints are very pretty and very fluffy!

Well I learned a lot about pigeons from my grandfather, who's been raising and breeding Homing pigeons for almost 90 years.
From there, I actually read articles on the specific genes and genetic interactions!

I'm no expert though. XD
And as it is not all pigeon genetics are fully understood.
The little guys I'm posting here will have as complicated genetics as I can personally comprehend (which is a decent amount but there are a crazy big number of different potential interactions and outcomes!)

Saints follow the same rough genetics as homers, but there are certain patterns and colors that they are more prone to because of how they were bred. Like piebald and recessive red.

I would love to see pictures when you get your birds!



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castaway (#24056)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:46:21
Cock 1 A and hen 1 D please.



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Ras (#32083)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:52:12
That's awesome! My family knows everything about chickens, but nothing about pigeons lol. I'm thinking about heading over to the book store at some point to buy books on genetics of various animals, I'll have to add pigeons to the list
I'll definitely put some pictures up when I get them! I'm thinking about just making a thread for all my ranch and all the various animals lol



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Dam (#7325)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 12:56:34
I was wondering, do the colours of their talons and/or claws are direct indicators or help in any way to detect the presence of any specific gene? :o



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Densai (#22807)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 13:00:27
Hiya, Kamen! This is a great idea! :D I was thinking about doing something similar to this a while back, but with dogs. Then I kind of forgot about it, and this popped up. So I got thinking about making my thing, and realized it would look like I stole the idea from you. So I came by to ask if it would be ok if I could make something with a slightly similar concept idea? Of course, it would be a lot different from this, but still a bit of the same concept in it.

I would definitely credit you! ^u^

So, uh... Is that ok? xD I figured I should ask you.



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Edited on 03/07/14 by Linkallo (#22807)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 13:01:47
Wow, this is really cool!

I'd love to see Cock 1 A crossed with Hen 1 B :)



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Kamen Rex (#9488)

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Posted on
2014-07-03 13:17:50
@ Linkallo: It's ok! Midnighteh is doing something similar as well, but with cats. You can go ahead and make your doggy one. Maybe you could put a link back to Pigeon Fancy, though? Then we can get all these genetics games threads linked up. XD

@Dam: A little bit reverse. The skin on the legs and feet as well as the pigment of the beak, talons, and cere change corresponding to the most "dominant" gene present. Basically they change with the phenotype. So those super pale pink feet of the Recessive White appear because the Recessive White is expressed and this affects the pigment of the entire rest of the bird. Basically, everything gets whiter and the flesh gets a little more pink instead of red. ^^



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