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| Posted by | Sub-male breeding during the Valentines event? |
 Larvirawr (#27485) Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts  Posted on 2014-12-04 22:36:55 |
As we all know, many people want to breed their sub-males but it's a rejected idea. BUT. What about if, next valentines day event, it was incorporated as a temporary feature somehow? It would be just like how we had the fountain of youth thing that aged your lion back a few years in one of the events because people wanted it to happen but it couldn't be added as a permanent feature. I feel that story-wise, it could also work out with the way the valentines event is. The whole point is that you're sneaking off to flirt with lionesses in other prides. Maybe your sub males could sneak a breeding in with your pride members while the king's away, flirting. Hmmm! --- Brainstorming / Notes (I didn't want to add specific ideas but I got excited sorry. Obviously you don't have to agree with them all, I'm only tossing some suggestions around.) It doesn't have to go on for the whole month. It could last for valentines day only, it could be the last tier, etc. IF you could sub-male breed throughout the whole month (not getting specific. there's many, many ways this idea can be done!) there could also be a high chance of getting caught, with a cooldown of when he can try again -- OR, what about this? You come back from flirting with another pride's lioness, only to discover that one of your sub males had been flirting with one of your in-heat lionesses while you were away. (there could be a certain % chance of this happening!) You can either choose to slap him away or pretend you didn't see it. This way, you can't choose what lioness, however he can't breed without your "permission." This would avoid annoying notifications if you could only see this and take action from the event page. Ok, maybe we don't have to go that crazy. Maybe it could just be an item that costs event currency or GB (similar to paying for a stud?) The items could disappear once March starts. *** Sub-male breeding doesn't have to change the way the valentines event was last year; it would only be a new feature added to it!!! *** *** I'm NOT suggesting we can sub-male breed without limitations or consequence. There would obviously need to be appropriate restrictions set in place. If you have criticism, it shouldn't be based off of this assumption. Thanks! *** --- Comment spotlight Illusion (#28866) And it WOULD help the site's income from zebra heart purchases. For example, if it was on Valentine's day, I'd want to breed my sub to his mate. Say the gal wasn't in heat yet, so I went to buy a zebra heart - only to find that I was pretty broke and I need to buy some GB to get the heart. It works both ways! Non-sub-breeding people would have barely anything to argue about, supporters would be happy, and more income for the site! It all works. :) Kat (49358) How about they only get to breed three times....total (or any number less than 5) --- Q/A Wouldn't there would be more cubs? Perhaps, but this happens with every event, and every time there's a news post where new markings and bases have been added. Basically every time we get a new way to breed, we have more cubs. Wouldn't this encourage traditional studding and scams? In order to avoid this, perhaps transferred lions can lose sub-male breeding privileges. (Is that possible?) Or maybe mods can more strictly monitor this activity during the very limited time this feature is allowed. Suggestions are very welcome. (: Won't people demand more of it once February is over? Unfortunately. Hopefully it's made clear that sub-male breeding is a valentines gift only. I personally don't see this as a major concern though. People have asked for the bunny tunnels / murder rock to be permanent, and lioden hasn't burned down yet because of it. |
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Larvirawr (#27485)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 01:08:40 |
Aliya- That's what I figured. If we can't have it permanently maybe we can have it available for the < 9% of the year which is February, in the spirit of love xD I remember last valentines event we went to this place and flirted with other people's lionesses, and if that person found out within a half hour, their lion could slap you and they'd get a slap point. If not, you get away with it and get flirt points. Something like that. I don't really want to add too much detail and specifics into this idea though because there are so many good ways it can be pulled off. It doesn't matter to me how. Cameo- I feel like that's still a lot of breeding they can do, though. I don't even breed my main lion that much o:  0 players like this post! Like? |
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IllusionLion (#28866)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 01:20:14 |
I truly strongly dislike any sub-male breeding suggestions, but damn, have you got my attention and support. I support for it to be either last-tier or on valentine's day. ^^ And it WOULD help the site's income from zebra heart purchases. For example, if it was on Valentine's day, I'd want to breed my sub to his mate. Say the gal wasn't in heat yet, so I went to buy a zebra heart - only to find that I was pretty broke and I need to buy some GB to get the heart. It works both ways! Non-sub-breeding people would have barely anything to argue about, supporters would be happy, and more income for the site! It all works. :) Love it. My full support, and I truly hope this happens. c: 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Larvirawr (#27485)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 01:36:57 |
Thank you for the support, Illusion C: That's an interesting point you made about the zebra hearts. I hadn't really thought about that before! I feel that story-wise, it could also work out with the way the valentines event is. The whole point is that you're sneaking off to flirt with lionesses in other prides. Maybe your sub males could sneak a breeding in with your pride members while he's away, flirting. Hmmm! Adding these things to my original post. x3 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 30/12/14 by Larvirawr (#27485) |
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Lascivious Leopard (Challenge! (#12679) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 02:01:18 |
I'd support on the stipulation that it's for within your pride only and/or a very limited one use item type thing. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Larvirawr (#27485)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 03:56:05 |
Thank you, vulgar hyena. cc: Everyone: I got excited and updated the middle section with a bit of brainstorming bahaha. Please note that my suggestion is ONLY that sub-male breeding is somehow incorporated into the February event. That's it. There's many ways that this can happen. The specific suggestions and ideas in the middle of my post aren't the main focus of this thread. They're just me being an excited nerd. o3o 0 players like this post! Like? |
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IllusionLion (#28866)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 04:23:18 |
I actually really love the idea you put in. My god, do you have some spectacular ideas! :o 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Larvirawr (#27485)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:37:41 |
Heh. I was pretty pumped when I was coming up with that idea but I wasn't sure if anyone else would like it lol. Thank you very much. x3 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Snowene (#39233)
Spicy View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:39:30 |
110% support, this is honestly kind of brilliant to me. Gives submales some sort of purpose other than being stat hoarders (unless they're heirs). Great idea, I'm so convinced of it I've began hunting for good submales when V. Day comes XD 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:40:33 |
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IllusionLion (#28866)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:41:48 |
Axel, elaborate? A no support practically doesn't matter unless you explain why. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:49:12 |
I thought it is clear because of all my comments on the other hundred threads that ask for it... But very well, I will go in detail: 1. I am against everything that has to do with submale breeding. Developers said: 'nope', so I respect that. 2. Just because there is a limit on you being able to breed only in your own pride doesnt mean old-fashioned studding cannot happen. People will collect those who want to breed their submales. 3. There are people who have 2-3 submales. Does this mean they all have the same chance? They all can be bred? 4. If it was a feature that costs event currency it should omgfth expensive. 5. About the brainstorming bit: How exactly will that prevent abuse of the feature? Nobody would say 'no' and swat away the submale if they really want him to breed with their in-heat girls. You could use your side-account to transfer ladies you dont want bred there, and keep those who you want bred. 6. If this was implemented, I would love to see some serious stat-penalty and special marks cannot be inherited from submales. Color/marking/stat-breeding should be tied to the main male. 7. Will cause an unneeded influx on cubs nobody will be able to sell on the market. We have an already terrible market. Dont need a flood of cubs. 8. because of potential old-fashioned studding coming back for that month/few days there will be a huge increase in scams. 9. If it was last tier as well, what kind of last tier reward will those get who dont want to breed their submale? Last tier rewards should be universal. Just to name a few reasons. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 30/12/14 by Axel (#6627) |
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Hs1213 (#51526)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 05:52:29 |
Like young lovers lol I like the idea like have you pick a sub male and he ages to breeding age and you do your thing and after a period of time he returns to his original age!!! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Larvirawr (#27485)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 07:58:14 |
Axel, I haven't read / don't remember reading your replies in any other threads. 1) Anyway, I respect that it's a "no" as a permanent feature, and I don't believe it should be a permanent feature, however I feel like events are different. Especially during the month of love, it would make sense to add more breeding features. 2) I actually hadn't thought about how it might increase the risk of unofficial transactions. :c Maybe mods could be stricter about deleting those threads during this time? Or maybe any lionesses transferred during February can't breed with sub-males? Hmm. 3) Yes. I would imagine it to be random, unless we go with the item idea. If that happens, the items should vanish at the end of February at midnight. 4) It should be expensive, yes. c: 5) True, but I personally see this as more tactical than abusive. And there's still no guarantee that the exact sub-male you want will actually end up flirting with your female. If you transfer the sub-males you don't want to breed to your side, maybe that would actually increase sales of gb because people would want more sub-male slots? 6) Thanks for the input on that. :3 7) Cub booms always happen with events! Remember the tsavo male during October? The marking applicators and base changers? The event-marked NCLs? 8) See #2 9) Yes, unfortunately it's impossible to please everyone. There's always a handful of people who complain when a new tier opens up. Sub-male breeding doesn't have to be the only thing unlocked in the last tier. The last tier could also open up other items / decors / backgrounds, etc. That way the people who don't want to breed their sub-males will have things, too. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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IllusionLion (#28866)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 08:33:37 |
Axel: Well, I'm not going out of my way to find another cub-male-breeding thread and foams and read your comments there. So it's convenient you posted that here. 1) Then why is this still up? I'm sure staff has seen it and are possibly considering it. To add on, this is VERY different from any other sub male breeding threads. It's for a very small period of time, not forever. And it'd be very limited. 2) Then I propose something where they can only breed lions without a 'transfer cooldown', which could be implemented for this particular suggestion. That would stop traditional breeding. 3) Maybe, that's a question that the OP may be able to answer. Or perhaps it would be a random submale, you would not choose. 4) That's been suggested here already and agreed to by the OP. 5) Because they wouldn't get to choose WHICH lady they'd breed to. Some people may be scared of this and swat the sub away. Thee would be plenty of that. Say I had a girl in heat I'd planned to breed to a certain stud. I came to my den to see a sub was flirting with the in-heats - I'd get nervous me might choose 6,7) It's barely any increase in cubs - and if they're as terrible as you'd like them t turn out, they'll get chased anyway. 8) See my answer to number two. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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It's a Paradox (#40791)
Eros View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-30 09:48:27 |
I'd support this if this feature was only on Valentine's Day considering if it was one of those events where we unlock all the tiers fairly quickly (and have them for nearly half the month), people wouldn't be so eager to go out and buy Zebra Hearts for their girls and most would simply wait for them to go into heat (if they were near the end of their cooldown). Also, I do half support Axel's 6th and 8th reason for not supporting this idea. I do agree with them that there should be a known stat decrease of cubs born of the sub-male simply because it shouldn't be a complete win. There's a reason why subs don't breed and that's because they're meant to become kings. As for Axel's 8th reason, it would be a simple fix of not being able to breed transferred or traded lionesses to the sub-male as there would be a sort of "warm up" time in where the sub had to get used to the new pride member. This period of time would last until 11:59 PM when the Valentine's Day feature ended. If the user decided to transfer the lioness back to it's original den upon finding out of the transfer cooldown, the lioness would still be able to breed with the sub-male(s) of their original den due to them already knowing the male. If a user tried to transfer a sub-male to another den, the same thing would happen except they wouldn't be able to breed with any of the females because they would all be considered new pride members to him. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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