I think a cub with this mutation needs more protection than the average cub. @ SansationalSkeleton (#29566) no problem.

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That is why it is a lethal mutation.

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I agree @Jaci

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I guess this would be the first lethal mutation on lioden that is not lethal to the cub itself, but depends on other factors like, hyenas, bigger predators, etc.

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@Jaci I would agree with that, that is why it would need to be protected more say by broodmothers and mothers itself while it is still under 6 months

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I think that it should either die after a few months or maybe grow into a young adult and get into situations where it gets hurt. You should have to have one lion protect it its whole life, maybe it has to have a nueturing personality? I don't know .~.

Edit: wow, *nurturing

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I think as long as it is under the protection of a brood-mother it should stay alive. I would suggest not cub training it or patrolling it. Once it is taken out of brood-mother care, I think you should have a certain amount of time before it dies. If that does not work with the admins of Lioden than I would agree with it dying at young adult hood

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I thin that the mutation should have a high rate of being lethal but have a small chance of living.

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That is why I made it lethal, but will live to adult hood until it dies. It will die sooner while it is still a cub if it is not under the protection of a brood-mother

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I like the idea itself, but all the caveats and conditions for its survival seem like too much.
While they make sense in context, it would be really weird and annoying to have to program in and then teach all those rules to people.
Currently, it's pretty simple: lethal = dead by 6mos, non-lethal and non-gameplay-impacting = cosmetic only, non-lethal and gameplay-impacting = can't be king, can't be broodmom, can't hunt.
Dwarves and leopons have small caveats, like lowered stats due to size or hybrid qualities.

However, I feel like all the extra stuff that this would have (shortened lifespan if not protected but normal lifespan if protected, can only be protected by nurturing, "extra protection" - how would that even work, how do you protect a cub "more"?) is just way too much.

If it's lethal, that's due to it being incapable of surviving for longer. So like, extra limbs has extremely limited mobility and eventually stops being able to exercise and feed, causing an early death.
On the other hand, a non-lethal mutie that has gameplay-changing features, like a blind lion, wouldn't reasonably be able to survive without being taken care of by the pride. They would certainly fall prey to hyenas and other wildlife, naturally. However, they aren't lethal because in the Lioden universe, the lion's pride takes care of it and protects it.

It seems wishy-washy for the mutie to be both lethal and not lethal, and I don't really support the existence of an overly-complicated mutation like that.

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I have no idea if others have stated it, but I think it should be a lethal mutation. The cub would have a hard time nursing (cats "knead" their mothers bereasts to help milk flow) and it could have hard time breathing as well because of the deformation. I'm not 100% sure on that, but it coukd happen!


However, I love the idea how only a nuturing lioness could take care of it! Like it could be the only cub it can take care of.

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@Pendrell: I see what you are saying, but I think it would be neat to have mutations that had more caveats like this! Especially if you are particularly fond of the lion(ess), you can keep it alive. But only if you put in the extra effort to care for it properly. I have seen people who strive for lethal mutations, but I find it kinda silly since you get nothing from it. I think it could be fun to work hard to keep the poor thing alive! And would add a fun little addition to the game.
But on that same note, I see it being a huge pain in the rear for the coders. Unless they just kept a cub-like survival % for their entire life. That coding is already in place, and would simply need to be applied to those mutated individuals. And since mutations that affect game play exist, it is obviously possible to apply exclusive rules/conditions to mutated individuals.

But anyways, even if it would be the typical dies at 6 months, I`m supporting it anyways. I bet it would be cute.

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I am not sure if you read it, but I did make it a lethal mutation. It would have a harder time getting around and have a hard time against large predators.

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I did want it to be lethal mutation, but where it would die at adolescent age(It would give you longer time with them) instead of 6 months like other lethal mutants because brood-mothers can no longer care for them at that age.

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Yes, I did read it, and you said, "That is why I made it lethal, but will live to adult hood until it dies."

Lethal, in the game, means it dies as a cub and doesn't actually reach adulthood.
You also said, "I think as long as it is under the protection of a brood-mother it should stay alive."
Which, again, isn't lethal by the definition of the game.

Hence my point that this is over-complicated and seems too indecisive and full of conditionals to really work in the game.

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