Posted by Goddess Fertility Usefulness 185+ support!
sky [20 bo 2k g2
ferus] (#137655)


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Posted on
2018-08-01 17:57:30
Hi!

I'm a huge fan of goddess fertility lionesses, and have always though that they should be worth more than they currently are. Sure, it's nice to have girls that will get bred on the first try no matter what, but when you're breeding for mutations and need VLFs it's difficult to find the motivation to keep goddess girls.

So, I'm here to bring a few ideas for increasing the usefulness of goddess fertility ladies to the table! Thanks to everyone who threw ideas into chat <3 any one of these ideas would make goddess girls so much more useful + interesting to buy!

IN LIGHT OF THE NEW UPDATE:

I strongly suggest that Goddess fertility girls could have a higher chance of passing special bases! even if their fertility is common, perhaps they could have a tiny chance of passing on special bases? (even when bred to a common base)

Ideas:
1. Goddess fertility girls should always have 2+ cubs
2. They could have a rare chance at a 5th cub!
//Decrease chances of 1 cub litters and correspondingly increase 4 cub litter chances
3. Have a higher chance at breeding special bases, even if not special themselves
4. Be able to throw any fertility percentage randomly
5. Breeding to goddesses could result in no loss of energy/a reduced loss in energy!
6. Throw higher stat cubs (#650)

(Sorry I forget who exactly suggested #s 2 and 3 so if you want credit, let me know below!)

Since these (esp 1 and 2) could potentially cause some economy issues, I also suggest that
1. Chasteberries should only bring a lion's fertility to 99% at most
2. Goddess breeding should be nerfed. the chances of getting a goddess, even from another goddess girl, should be severely decreased.
3. Maybe goddesses lose fertility even faster than other girls?

These would all increase the usefulness and the demand for goddess lionesses, something I think is totally lacking in the game right now :')

I'm totally open to criticism, so please comment with whatever concerns you have! just 'no supporting' and leaving doesn't help :/
besides i like debating
also feel free to comment more suggestions! i'll add them in <3

-sky



This suggestion has 197 supports and 17 NO supports.



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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 22:58:00 by skyfalls wants dp kings (#137655)

ASHRI (#119458)

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Posted on
2018-08-02 15:34:12
^^ that's pretty much I said but she knows how to word it and bold things lol

and I still stand by it.





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Edited on 02/08/18 @ 15:36:42 by Ashri|9M Sunset Base Primal| (#119458)

sky [20 bo 2k g2
ferus] (#137655)


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Posted on
2018-08-02 16:01:42
thanks for the criticism xenn! i appreciate the neatly laid out points (aesthetically, lol) so i'll try to replicate them haha

1: 2+ cubs

I completely understand your points here & in the 5th cub section, your concerns make sense. However, goddess ferts having 2+ cubs wouldn't exactly be like a Grain of Paradise, as you're unable to choose which lioness has this perk. It could be your super ugly 1m girlie that happens to be a goddess. Since it's limited in this way (and also if this suggestion was implemented, goddess girls would be much rarer), it wouldn't detract from GoP buys. This would also be limited because of the temporary nature of fertility: as it drops, this buff would be lost.

2: Fifth cub
This could be modified to be a higher chance to have a fourth cub. Do you think that's a better suggestion to add?

3: Higher chance at breeding special bases
As I explained earlier, the reason I added this one is because at the lower end of the spectrum, fertility is 100% linked to genetics (in the real world sense lol). 1% girls have higher chances at breeding mutations, which definitely in the real world are genetics based.. As there's no item ingame (that I know of) that increases chances at special bases, this would fill a void in the market. Having a girl with a higher chance at throwing specials, even if she's not special herself, would help tremendously with combo breeding (olive, etc).

4: Throwing any level of fertility
Sorry I worded this one badly, it's past midnight for me and my mind's running a little slow D: Basically I mean that a goddess girl could be able to throw any percentage of fertility, from infertile to goddess.

5: No loss of energy
This would be an absolutely harmless way to make goddess girls more special. What you're saying is that adding this would be unnecessary, but I disagree. There's no option in the game to breed without losing energy from the breeding itself! Why not add one?
And like you said, it's only 5/10% energy that you're not losing. It's harmless to add it ;)

Breeding on the first try can generally be counted on with any girl higher than average fertility. Giving goddess girls a nice buff would directly mirror 1% girls's higher chance at muties, and give more respect to a normally-overlooked part of lioden.

thanks for the criticism! sorry if any of this is worded badly, like i said it's past midnight and i'm exhaused :')
-sky



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Edited on 02/08/18 @ 16:11:55 by skyfalls (#137655)

KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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Posted on
2018-08-02 16:04:32
I like this idea and think if done right would be a great feature. My favorite is alway have 2+ cubs and the nerf ideas would make them more valuable.



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springacres' Side (#650)

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Posted on
2018-08-02 17:12:59
I support the basic idea, but I agree with those who have concerns about increasing the odds of goddess fert lionesses to throw special bases and with the concerns about minimum 2 cub/maximum 5 cub litters for goddesses. Here's what I would suggest instead.

1. Rather than increasing the minimum and maximum litter sizes for goddess fert lionesses, I would suggest that a goddess have a vastly reduced chance of a 1 cub litter and a corresponding increase in the chance for a 4 cub litter.

2. Bases on Lioden are related to genetics, not fertility, as far as I know. So instead of increased odds to throw special bases, how about increasing the percentage of her stats a goddess passes to her cubs?

I really like the idea of nerfing goddess breedings, reducing the chasteberry max to 99%, and increasing the rate at which goddesses lose fertility, though. Great ideas!



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🌾 faerie {lethal
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Posted on
2018-08-02 23:31:21
Sorry.. no. Goddess Fertility is just a Fertility, same as average Fertility is just a Fertility. Nothing special. Just Fertility.



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Florence (#117796)

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Posted on
2018-08-02 23:32:24
Love this idea!



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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Posted on
2018-08-03 06:13:58
@ahh starfruit (#112180)
But low fertility comes with the nice little perk of increased chance of mutations. Why shouldn't other fertilities come with nice little perks.



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🌾 faerie {lethal
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Posted on
2018-08-03 13:09:40
Because very Low mutations take a long time to breed, whereas goddess Fertility only takes one try. If we’re getting goddess Fertility perks, then we’re getting perks for ALL ferts. Goddess’ perk already is breeding on the first try, that’s all. We don’t NEED perks for the goddess Fertility. We really don’t.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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Posted on
2018-08-03 13:36:27
Your opinion.



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Dwalen 2nd (#148523)

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Posted on
2018-08-03 13:42:26
I really like this idea, especially either the guaranteed 2+ cubs or no energy to breed. Both of those really enforce the title, and make for a nice balance to the 1% mutation chances. I definitely think that if this is implemented, goddess fertilities should be rarer. It's like nurturing giving an extra broodmother slot. It's nice and convenient, but doesn't break the game. A+ suggestion.



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Doggy (#60955)

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Posted on
2018-08-04 13:43:36
I don't think they should be able to have a fifth cub, but increasing the chases of four cubs and decreasing the chances of one cub sounds great!



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Astra🐕Moon (#32998)

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Posted on
2018-08-04 13:46:09
I love the ideas, especially ideas 3, 4 & 6!
Absolutely support



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tsuki [g2 arabica
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Posted on
2018-08-07 11:43:43
I don't support this. My opinion is basically the same as the other people who disagreed.

Most of these have nothing to do with fertility, only with genetics. As for the 5th cub chance, like the others said, this would bring down the value of breeding items and besides we have the Double Uterus mutation. Maybe they could just have a slightly bigger chance for 2-3 cubs?

The increased chance for the special base would have absolutely nothing to do with her fertility and I think it's unnecessary because you can just breed two special based lions and you'll most likely get a special based cub. Perhaps we could get an item that increases the chances?

I don't really have a comment for the random fertility one.

Again, stats would have nothing to do with fertility.

The Goddess fertility has it's own useful feature: Saving up energy and money. I think that's how it should stay.

Edit: Forgot about the energy loss one! This won't hurt anyone. You could use a bone marrow or wait.



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Edited on 07/08/18 @ 11:47:16 by Space (#143046)

🥀 (#12402)

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Posted on
2018-08-07 12:18:19
Youve changed many stuff from the original post so I gotta remove my support. I support only that godesses have higher chance on getting 2 or more cubs. Currently its 50% 1 cub, 30% 2 cubs... for all lionesses. Using no energy is great.. the other stuff just seem too random (neutral about them) and some I just hate. They shouldn’t throw random fert, they shouldn't lose fert faster, they shouldn't be harder to pass fert or rarer to find. I think an item would work better for having higher chance of pasing special base.



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Edited on 07/08/18 @ 12:21:10 by Zizi 🥀 (#12402)

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2018-08-07 12:26:49
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