Posted by Deletion of Banned Account Lions + Items

Lex πŸ¦‹ {Brief
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Posted on
2018-11-18 12:29:37
Hi everyone! Quick suggestion here.

I’m proposing that after the administration team has decided to permanently ban a user, after a time period of say, 3-6 months, the entire contents of that account will be wiped.

Not given to the community, Not Given to the Tree, Not Auctioned or Raffled off- WIPED

My reasoning for this is simply server space and economics.
If theoretically, an account is banned that has 300+ Buffalo scrotums (which is reasonable in some cases), those 300+ Buffalo scrotums will show up in the β€œ# of items in game” and can effect the price of the item overall.

For Buffalo scrotums there’s always a surplus, but for items that are incredibly rare, such as Solaris and Interstellar applicators, every single item in game plays into the worth of the item. If items are on a permanently banned account, those items are never going to play a part in the economy again, and should be removed.

This also constitutes server space; the game should not have to hold onto thousands of lions and hundreds of thousands of items on accounts where the players won’t be returning.

TLDR; Wipe permabanned accounts after a period of time so the rest of the site can have more server space and remove dead items, currency, and lions from the economy



This suggestion has 540 supports and 22 NO supports.



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-10-01 08:41:23
If I was to take a very long break and try to login again after some time to see my account wiped, I would be upset. I have put a lot of work into my pride, and having it all thrown away because of inactivity is just bizzare.

I 100% DO NOT support wiping of inactive accounts, better safe than sorry, I say -- the same way I still don't support this suggestion, also, it's technically touching assets in a way.



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-10-01 08:43:29
Plus I think instead of being just useless they could appear once in a while as wandering lions that you *cannot* claim. Also they could be heritage for some new kinds of lions who I may suggest soon.



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Khajiit {G1 Leonid
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Posted on
2023-10-01 08:58:14
Readytest, we are talking about the PERMA banned accounts, ones that WON'T be unbanned, like multi accounts people used to HOARD items/lions or to get such items in unfair ways, basically cheating.
Also putting such lions in heritage of the "new kinds of lions" you might suggest is basically using them, aka touching assets :)
They should not be used and should not be taking up server space since they won't be used/seen by anyone anyway.

There should be an items/lions wipe on the accounts that were banned for multi accounting and other HEAVY infractions that won't be ever unbanned, as it would severely help with the server space. Especially that Lioden is lagging a lot as it was not built for such huge player base.



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-10-01 09:53:51
Full no support then. I just don't want this due to the potiental drama it would create... Just better safe than sorry in general ( maybe too bit paranoid about this.. )



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McMac N Cheese (2x
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:04:36
Readytest
You're entitled to your opinion! I support and I'm sure others do for the sake of server health, having been around for the death of one I think the health of this server should take priority over POTENTIAL drama.. Honestly said drama would mostly probably come from people that wanted the wiped assets, which was already discussed a few pages back. It's more problematic for perma banned accounts to have thousands of useless items clogging up the site, than it would be to just get rid of them completely.



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Az [G3 Heavenly
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:05:24
what drama? its not like the banned accounts can come and complain about their stuff being wiped. the only thing that would create drama is what you're suggesting, where the items/lions get distributed to the users so that they "don't go to waste". it would be a MAJOR problem where i can foresee users getting harassed if they get better items or lions



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:12:43
I think a big thing that should be considered is...how often do users casually think of banned accounts past posts like this that draw attention to them? I can guarantee that if the permabanned accounts were wiped, nobody would notice unless they were paying attention to their King's cubs count, and even then, it would likely be easily dismissed as folks foddering. However, the servers would be far less laggy, and the site would generally run a hell of a lot better. I forsee there being absolutely no drama past people mad that they didn't get the assets of banned players. And that's just greed right there.



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:16:34
" its not like the banned accounts can come and complain about their stuff being wiped. "
- @Az [G3 Sunset Fringe] (#120781)
Banned players could probably ban evade and/or rant and/or make gossip/drama on an off-site about the site, and it eventually would catch to lioden, thus the drama I would see this creating



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McMac N Cheese (2x
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:19:51
Sensible players would ignore them and move on, especially if they knew why the person waa banned. Why are you concerned about people that broke essentially LD law? If staff found out who they were they'd just get banned again. Simple as that. Their actions had consequences and they got what was coming, newer players may not know but a quick couple of educational posts on the player would fix it right up.



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Az [G3 Heavenly
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:27:08
readytest.

if they cant play the game

why would they care if their stuff is wiped.

you're not making any sense.

from seeing all of the posts you've made on other suggestions, I'm almost convinced you're a troll tbh.



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:38:09
Az -

Seconding McMac. Mods aren't hellishly liberal with their bans, they've got real good reasons for every one of em. But unless you personally really witnessed some of these banned players, that's not something you'd necessarily know.



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:41:40
Maybe with an account wipe, some of the muts would actually be worth something again...



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🌻 the serval
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:41:58
Banned is banned. Wipe 'em. I'm tired of finding the same few banned accounts with years-old lions in galactic stasis when searching for rare slots.



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Khajiit {G1 Leonid
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:43:29
Ah, the times when a dwarf was worth 60-80GB, pies were at least 5GB per one, same for patches... When the breed only marks and bases actually were worth something too and actually sold...

It would be nice if that helped with the market too.



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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Posted on
2023-10-01 10:45:42
Khajit -
Felt. I ended up having to do a raffle for the gorgeous soul I got, and so far I've got zero bites on my Qahir lioness with her cubs absolutely smothered in BO marks. All that work and they're near useless when it comes to making money.

I've given up on my dwarves. They can sit and look pretty in my frozen side until their cubs will actually be profitable.



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