Posted by Adjustment to Gorilla Enclave Rewards

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-11-26 05:17:09
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✪ Summary:

This suggestion is being pushed along with this one to improve cub trade-ins.

When the Gorilla Enclave was first implemented, it was new and it was exciting! Shiny and neat! The dev team faced a question, I imagine. "What do we include as prizes?" Back in these early days of the Enclave first being open, it was stuffed with all manner of items that you can find across Lioden. Perhaps the most tempting was the Applicators and Raffle Backgrounds. But with the addition of more and more Enclave exclusive items, the rest of the things in there not only seem superfluous, but also ... over priced?

Seriously, did this get glossed over? Let's do a breakdown.

In the Enclave, you can buy every single Pose on Lioden.
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You can also buy Random Marking Applicators (henceforth "RMA").
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But how does 120 Monkey Teeth compare to the value of a GB?

Well let's take a look at the next lowest item, Eye Applicators. Here's the Nebula Eyes Applicator.
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Okay so what's the current (at the time of posting this) going price?
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Oh... that's a bit more expensive than 1 Gold Beetle... Okay how about the Zoisite Eyes Applicator?
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So we've come to establish that some things in the Enclave are a *bit* overpriced (a lot overpriced, actually). Why is this a concern? Well, new players, mostly. New players often do not know the value of items, and might forget that Oasis offers a fairly decent selection. A player coming in here might see that they can get a pose for their lioness for 120 MT and think that's great!! ... Until they finally do, and realize they have wasted WEEKS of effort on something they could have very easily gotten for very, very little effort by comparison. What's more, it may potentially be upsetting to learn that they could have spent it on an item worth far more and that chance is now lost, instead having to do all of that work over again.

The prices of these items need to be severely adjusted. Here's some others that are overpriced.

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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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Literally nobody wants Human Liver if your name isn't Hannibal Lecter. The 60 MT vs 50 SB price on this one is probably the most offensive one out of the bunch. Ew!

✪ What I Am Proposing:

[+] A price overhaul of several items available in the Gorilla Enclave, or outright removing them from the list of available items.

I've supplied my thoughts on where a more appropriate price for each would be.

➤ Black Stallion: 50 MT
➤ Random Marking Applicator: 40 MT
➤ Poses: 25 MT
➤ Lion Meat: 100 MT
➤ Roasted Vulture: 50 MT
➤ Shamanic Stew: 50 MT
➤ Human Liver: 20 MT. The community considers it worth barely 200 SB at the time of this edit.

If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 485 supports and 6 NO supports.



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Edited on 11/04/20 @ 16:10:33 by [△] Jensen (#108458)

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🍁[G1 Mada RLC] (#75008)

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Posted on
2018-11-27 03:09:05
this is a very good idea! fat support here!



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Brimstone Baby (#162908)

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2018-11-27 03:27:18
For me, as a new player who was fortunate to have someone help me get started (credit to Donna!!), this is really upsetting to me. I'm in the process of moving, so no money for GB. My only possible way to get GB is by selling stuff. I don't know the value of most things in this game!! It's also difficult for me to get MT because....I don't have the cubs/sb to buy the correct Cubs.

This, along with my lack of/ little knowledge of the game, makes me frustrated. Say I want to buy Lion Meat. I see players selling it for way more than 9 GB. But is it easier to get the MT?

Now say I earn the 300 mt...with whatever Cubs I make...could there have been an easier way? Would it have actually been cheaper to earn enough GB to buy the lion meat?

New players don't know. This confusion could discourage players from wanting to enjoy this game, and screw them over!



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-11-27 03:31:30
Macncheese (#162908) :: Exactly. Players like you and every other new player are the ones I want this changed for. It can be very very to get screwed by this. It's actually easier to get the 9 GB for lion meat than it is monkey teeth since you can only get up to 7 a day. With GB, you can just hunt nonstop and sell the extra in bulk at monkey business! So this kind of makes it seem like Lion meat is worth way more when it really isn't.

😈SnuhNaki😈☃��� (#75008) :: Thank you so much for your support! It means a lot! <3



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Brimstone Baby (#162908)

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2018-11-27 03:35:33
SEE?! I had no idea the max you could earn a day was 7! I didn't know until yesterday that there were game guides created by players! I really love this idea. It could put the prices more realistically with the g.b.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-11-27 03:38:08
Macncheese (#162908) :: Well if you have any questions, you're always welcome to ask me <3 I'm glad this will help you out if it gets added.



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Brimstone Baby (#162908)

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2018-11-27 03:45:02
It seriously would! I bet a lot of players are like me. No money to buy G.B. so the only way to get these items, aside from overpriced branch sales, is to earn the monkey teeth. 300÷7= 42.8 Imagine doing all you could to earn 7 mt for 42/43 days. Thats 6 weeks of nonstop gorilla quests. Imagine if you miss a day? A week? Good grief that is insane!!



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Kich (#2373)


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2018-11-27 03:49:53
If it's Lion Meat you want, you could also buy one of the marking apps for the same 300MT, sell that for some tens of GB, and then buy a whole lot of Lion Meats with the money, as they're only 5GB now on branches, or last time I checked anyway. :') So yeah.. definitely support some price adjustments over at the Enclave.

A big peeve for me is also Yohimbe Bark being almost there with the marking app tier. I'd love some barks, but no way am I buying them for 250MT per when I could also save up a little more and just get a marking app for way more GB value. I might be more inclined to buy them if they were in the 100-200MT tier.



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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2018-11-27 05:33:10
Yohimbe barks are a really valuable item that are only available once a year. The price for them is fair, considering they go for 20-60GB each through the year. They're currently 45GB each.

edit: 45GB is more than I bought my feline marking app for, at 30GB.



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Edited on 27/11/18 @ 05:34:57 by Bezthiel{F5Black} (#81210)

Kich (#2373)


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2018-11-27 05:38:14
That's only because of gons. They were a solid 20gb tops not that long ago.



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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2018-11-27 05:56:29
Well, yeah. But there are now twice as many hybrid types in game, meaning higher demand, not just now, but forever, for an already high demand, limited supply item. Even if 20GB for Y. barks were a steady price, the supply/demand of apps is not. I bought my first feline auburn app for 100GB, the second for 50, the last for 30.

Even if prices stayed as typical for Y. Barks, 20GB is still close enough to 30 that I really cannot support reducing the price of such a high demand item. Poses, giant tortoises, livers, stat breeding foods- these things are all less than 5GB during any part of the year, which doesn't nearly match the actual market value of monkey teeth used to buy them; Y. Barks actually do nearly reflect actual market value with their price.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-11-27 11:24:14
Yeah I don't want to touch the prices of big ticket items without doing further research. I don't deal in Yohimbe Barks so I'm not as familiar. But that said the most important one to maintain at 300 is the apps because due to marks becoming more common those devalue the easiest and become hardest to sell. Why buy the app if you can just get a lion with most of the marks you need? That's the logic here. Those apps are also why I don't want it to be easier to get MT.



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Severinus [Dorsal
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2018-11-27 23:33:26
Support. Lioden's ever beautiful free market at work here. xD



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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Posted on
2018-11-29 17:18:35
Support. Honestly, who even decided these prices lol



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Amarylllis (#115274)

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Posted on
2018-12-02 05:03:38
I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately, since I wanted to buy a few poses and thought "hmm, why not use my Monkey Teeth instead of the GB that I'll need later" - then I looked at the prices and quickly bought them with GB. Enough said. Support.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-12-02 05:07:53
Amarylllis (#115274) :: Pretty much my exact process I went through. Thank you so much for the support!
Severinus [4x Feline Silky] (#59230) :: Thank you immensely for the support. ; v;/)



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