Posted by Adjustment to Gorilla Enclave Rewards

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2018-11-26 05:17:09
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✪ Summary:

This suggestion is being pushed along with this one to improve cub trade-ins.

When the Gorilla Enclave was first implemented, it was new and it was exciting! Shiny and neat! The dev team faced a question, I imagine. "What do we include as prizes?" Back in these early days of the Enclave first being open, it was stuffed with all manner of items that you can find across Lioden. Perhaps the most tempting was the Applicators and Raffle Backgrounds. But with the addition of more and more Enclave exclusive items, the rest of the things in there not only seem superfluous, but also ... over priced?

Seriously, did this get glossed over? Let's do a breakdown.

In the Enclave, you can buy every single Pose on Lioden.
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You can also buy Random Marking Applicators (henceforth "RMA").
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But how does 120 Monkey Teeth compare to the value of a GB?

Well let's take a look at the next lowest item, Eye Applicators. Here's the Nebula Eyes Applicator.
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Okay so what's the current (at the time of posting this) going price?
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Oh... that's a bit more expensive than 1 Gold Beetle... Okay how about the Zoisite Eyes Applicator?
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So we've come to establish that some things in the Enclave are a *bit* overpriced (a lot overpriced, actually). Why is this a concern? Well, new players, mostly. New players often do not know the value of items, and might forget that Oasis offers a fairly decent selection. A player coming in here might see that they can get a pose for their lioness for 120 MT and think that's great!! ... Until they finally do, and realize they have wasted WEEKS of effort on something they could have very easily gotten for very, very little effort by comparison. What's more, it may potentially be upsetting to learn that they could have spent it on an item worth far more and that chance is now lost, instead having to do all of that work over again.

The prices of these items need to be severely adjusted. Here's some others that are overpriced.

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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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On Branches at the time of posting this:
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Literally nobody wants Human Liver if your name isn't Hannibal Lecter. The 60 MT vs 50 SB price on this one is probably the most offensive one out of the bunch. Ew!

✪ What I Am Proposing:

[+] A price overhaul of several items available in the Gorilla Enclave, or outright removing them from the list of available items.

I've supplied my thoughts on where a more appropriate price for each would be.

➤ Black Stallion: 50 MT
➤ Random Marking Applicator: 40 MT
➤ Poses: 25 MT
➤ Lion Meat: 100 MT
➤ Roasted Vulture: 50 MT
➤ Shamanic Stew: 50 MT
➤ Human Liver: 20 MT. The community considers it worth barely 200 SB at the time of this edit.

If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 485 supports and 6 NO supports.



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Edited on 11/04/20 @ 16:10:33 by [△] Jensen (#108458)

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2ros ruby (#156732)

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Posted on
2020-04-11 16:14:30
also, the bonuses are rlly.. eh. difficult energy bonus is over half the bar but if you choose imp you get like nothing, i could get more imp using the 60% energy i get in explore



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-04-11 20:00:07
Ah yeah. The impression bonus is absolutely garbage. I forgot all about that. Blocked it from memory, I guess.~



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Posted on
2020-04-16 21:30:37
Big support!!



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༺Yōkai༻ (#143483)

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Posted on
2020-04-17 08:17:21
Bump lovely idea



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༺Yōkai༻ (#143483)

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Posted on
2020-04-17 08:17:21
Bump lovely idea



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Ticklicous [1k+ G4
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2020-05-19 09:21:30
Support. I agree, the enclave shop really needs some price overhauls. In fact prices for Lion Meats have gone down since and generally have been averaging anywhere between like 4600 SB - 5600 SB per these days.



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SouthernCryptid (#25664)

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2020-05-21 23:20:41
Yeah, this stuff is way overpriced in MT and definitely needs to go down. It'd be an easy to implement 'for the good of the site' change. No excuse not to fix something to be more reasonable that would be fairly easy to do.



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Moose of Nature (#110955)

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2020-05-26 10:30:47
Whats also bad, is it prices ALL poses as 120MT, when the Jolly pose you can only get in the GE or during Decembers event! That pose will sell for 6gb+ because its so much harder to get than the 1gb for an evil pose in the Oasis, but its now devaluing a bit because of it being priced the same as the others (and the others are becoming slightly over-priced if bought with MT)
If theyre gonna keep stuff in the enclave, id suggest removing the Oasis items, just so it makes it easier to price, and then have a steady Xsb/Xgb = Xmt value (i.e., and im not being serious, just typing it to make it clearer, 5sb = 1MT and 1GB = 100MT, type thing.) So prices would be consistent.



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🏳️‍🌈 Vel (#183053)

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2020-07-30 23:56:11
Oh my lord yes please, the enclave is nuts in terms of prices.



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🌵 SpicyKale 🌴 (#184461)


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2020-07-31 00:04:30
Massive support! The enclave has always astounded me with its prices, i've been saving for almost a year and only have around 150mt



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-07-31 03:10:54
Braith (Side Account) (#110955) :: I can understand the appeal of having Oasis items in the Enclave. Some users have a harder time earning GB but can earn MT easily. So this is a nice compromise to still let them get these things. But poses that can be bought from Oasis need to have their prices reduced, and the Jolly pose kept more expensive. It's unintentionally devaluing the price of these items, and others like lion meat - which you can now find en masse thanks to lioness quest - are just not worth that 300 MT price tag at all.

Accidentally traded for impression bonus the other day and was yet again reminded how bad it is. Ha.



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SiennaSnow (#210555)

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2020-08-20 11:09:46
I think some of your price estimates might be a bit too low, but in general I totally agree that they need to be overhauled.



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🌵 SpicyKale 🌴 (#184461)


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2020-08-20 16:05:18
honestly, yeah your prices seem a bit low, a lot of people mass breed and can get a lot of mankey teeth really fast, so it wouldn't be fair for the prices to be so low.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-08-21 10:38:05
🐫 SpicyKale 🐫 (#184461) :: Monkey teeth are earned at the same rate per player per day - 1 quest (Easy; Med; Hard) per 24 hours. While mass breeding can occur, the chances of it raising the amount of teeth a player can get drastically is unlikely.

SiennaSnow (#210555) :: I will take a peek at current prices of these items on the market to better reflect today's prices. These are 2018 (end of year) prices.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2020-08-21 10:53:36
At the time of me posting THIS response, here are the current prices (branch market average) vs 2018 prices for these items:

➤ Black Stallion: 1700 SB (2020) vs 1500 SB (2018)
➤ Random Marking Applicator: 1 GB (Fixed Oasis Value) or 1300 SB (Branch Market 2020)
➤ Poses: 1 GB (Fixed Oasis Value)
➤ Lion Meat: 5 GB (2020) vs 9 GB (2018)
➤ Roasted Vulture: 1 GB or 1200 SB (2020) vs 1 GB (Fluctuating; 2018)
➤ Shamanic Stew: 3 GB (2020) vs 1 GB (Fluctuating; 2018)
➤ Human Liver: 700 SB (2020) vs 200 SB (2018)

Currently, the price of Lion Meat has dropped due to supply going up drastically due to the lioness quest adding more into the game. Black Stallions are currently more valuable in 2020 than in 2018.

I will amend the prices to reflect these changes. Additionally, due to Jolly being listed among common poses, I'll adjust that.

➤ Black Stallion: 70 MT
➤ Random Marking Applicator: 40 MT
➤ Poses: 30 MT -- EXCEPT Jolly: Keep Jolly at 120 MT
➤ Lion Meat: 120 MT
➤ Roasted Vulture: 60 MT
➤ Shamanic Stew: 60 MT
➤ Human Liver: 40 MT. The community considers it worth barely 200 SB at the time of this edit.

If there is further input, I've some time today to hear it. Just be aware that I'm looking at the OVER-ALL prices. There are some items priced ludicrously high that sell for a ton next to items that sell for next to nothing (See: Feline Apps that cost around 50 - 70 gb being priced the same as lion meat, which, as i said, cost only 5 gb per now.)



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