-LOCKED - Rumble Marking Clarification
Posted on 2020-05-05 15:40:51

Rumble Markings



As per our last news post, we would like to give you an update on the status of the rumble markings.

We have had a small number of threads over the past few days pop up discussing this marking with comments ranging from dislike of the marking, to the marking making them feel uncomfortable, to the marking having the potential to cause a seizure. We take comments like this very seriously and went further to investigate this.

Today, we sought legal clarification over the marking. We have been advised that we are compliant and meet all legal requirements and there is no reason that the marking should be removed from the game or that any additional warning notice needs to be given out. Additionally, the marking itself was not flagged as a typical risk.

However, we have decided to go above and beyond the requirements and have added a warning to our Terms of Service. This also concerns user submitted content. Users can display content of their choice (within reason, and assuming it complies with our Terms and Code of Conduct) on their den pages, in their avatars, lion bios, topic posts, etc. Most of these are not moderated in advance, and only when they are reported to us, so we feel it is now prudent to include this warning in our terms regardless.

We must ask that if you have noticed any adverse effects while accessing Lioden at any point, to discontinue use of the site immediately and seek medical help from a physician.

Rumble markings are now back on the site and the applicator has returned to Vashkartzen’s reputation shop. We will be keeping them in the second, revised version that was posted recently.

Rather than discuss this ad nauseum, we have made a final decision, and we will not be accepting any new suggestion threads, petitions or campaigns for the marking to be removed or adjusted. The marking can be discussed, but when the discussion descends into fighting, disrespect or bashing of the site and staff, you will be asked to stop discussing it. Failure to comply will result in action taken against your account. This is the same as any other topic discussed on Lioden.

Due to some of the conduct on the site from a small minority of players recently, we feel that we need to remind users of the Terms of Service point 6.2.b:
“You also agree that you will not in connection with the Game:
publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which:
is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, offensive, vulgar, racist, hateful, discriminatory, obscene, pornographic, sexually suggestive, misleading, abusive or deceptive or which attacks sexual orientation, promotes self-harm or eating disorders, involves murder, rape, suicide, terrorism, excessive gore or hacking;”

Chat



In light of recent events, we've implemented a filter in the chat room. Certain words and/or phrases are now blocked, and attempting to use them will result in you being timed out from posting in chat for 60 seconds. Intentionally attempting to get around this filter will result in actions being taken against your account, as the filter itself contains very serious words and phrases that we have never allowed to be used.

Staff members are now able to timeout players for 60 seconds as well, to assist with anyone that is intentionally causing issues in chat. Please continue to flag and report inappropriate messages as you see them, however.

Along with this chat update, we have also implemented a way for players to disable the visual ping effects. You can find this toggle under the gear settings in chat. This toggle is stored to your account and carries over through devices. You can turn on and turn off ping effects as necessary.

Admin Edit: Main Chat will remain paused for the rest of the day. We will look into unpausing Main Chat during EU morning hours. Thank you for your patience.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:32:02 by Katze (#3)

AkiraRose (#164628)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:16:14
Can’t believe people are still complaining when it’s their own fault...THANK YOU to Lioden staff for being amazing even during this global pandemic and continuing to make sure the site runs smoothly. You are under appreciated and people haven’t forgotten that. Thank you for so what you do I hope you And your families are staying safe and are well. Without you we wouldn’t have something to keep our minds busy. You peeps rock x



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Ticklicous [1k+ G4
Ferus] (#490)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:16:25
I think this is a very reasonable choice to make. Personally I find Rumble kind of ugly and unappealing but I mean I feel that way about plenty of other markings all the same and ignore them just fine. Rumble is no different and I'm not gonna suddenly throw a fit over one more marking I don't like.

While its unfortunate on the medical side of things, in all fairness LD is not going to be the only place they'll ever see such a pattern and fact is they need to understand even if it was given an option to be toggled, screenshots and other stuff will exist with it. So I agree telling them to seek help and avoid LD is a very reasonable and rational request.



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Kamidere [G4
Sunrise] (#155815)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:16:35
They said it in chat a while ago @Raptor

There’s probably some images circulating around somewhere



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:17:04 by 🧀Awkward🧀 (#155815)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:17:28
I myself love the rumble marking :) I don't see a single problem with it at all :)



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TheMorgueDonator (#83658)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:17:48
Also ya'll it was voted to stay by us users so stop bashing mods/admins :l



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Radish (#147846)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:17:54
I really just don't get how a marking can cause so much harm to someone who dosen't use it on any of their lions.

Like, ok you might still see it when studding and stuff like that but you can also scroll very easily. From what i hear it's not recommended to look for a long time... Which you can't really do accidentally?

I honestly had much worse problems with some of the user's pages (y'know, some people have space or bright colors as "wallpapers" and not only can you not scroll away from it, it can get grating)



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Thalath {Side} (#43831)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:18:16
"Can’t believe people are still complaining when it’s their own fault"

Can you please explain to me how this is "[the users'] own fault"? There was nothing in this game before that caused this kind of issue. This is a first, so before this, Lioden was generally safe for people with epilepsy to play as long as they practice their usual safety at a computer. Lioden had nothing in its TOS before this occurrence to protect them and give the warning that Lioden is a video game and to cease playing if health issues arise, much like you'd see in, for example, Nintendo's Health & Safety warning.

"Also ya'll it was voted to stay by us users so stop bashing mods/admins :l"

It was voted to stay from a VERY VAGUELY WORDED poll which didn't explain why the marking was being changed in the first place.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:19:10 by 43831 (#43831)

Kiri #BLM (#29513)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:18:24
@AkirarRose Yes it's their own fault that they have medical conditions. Clearly they asked the universe to bless them with seizures and epilepsy instead of living normal healthy lives...



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:18:39 by Kiri[5.4k MR/EHR Velvet Ferus] (#29513)

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Snowflake Pie (#83917)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:18:28
Dude, some den/cave CSS is horrific LOL.



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nico (#199820)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:18:31
"if you don't like having a seizure because of a marking that could be edited, removed, or even blocked from view based on user preference, then just leave! you cannot complain or suggest anything about it either :)"



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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:18:40
Radish (#147846) if you're having problems with den css, you can disable it ^^



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Venex 🌸
[Returneth] (#167020)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:19:14
Also, the second version of the marking comes off as extremely lazy as it has been pointed out to basically be a Pelage overlay. Like, y'all really didn't fix anything thing at all. Disappointing.



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Snowflake Pie (#83917)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:19:18
I've disabled den CSS. It still shows up in caves and I think shops. It hurts lol. I just close out of it. *shrug*



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Birb (#172023)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:19:23
Yeah. People didn't choose to have sensitivity to patterns.



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Nature Paw (#64491)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:19:57
I’m confused why is chat turned off and what is happening where people need medical attention I’m super confused on where this is all coming from😂



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