I set my lions into different dens of priority myself, i don't always get around to them, or i don;t have the resources when i initially go to tend to them as apart of a daily routine. I do not have the funds to be buying so many toy/food bundles, let alone FAPA when i'm constantly spending money on things towards my projects, or I owe people stuff and have to give them money for that. Or i have to spend money towards my clan, as that is something I do as a clan owner.

I am only just getting back into the game yet again, so i quite literally have nothing and i can't do much about that when i have no money, and no lions to send on hunts. No way to get money other than exploring which I can't do so often for very much personal reasons.

Also, not everyone likes CSS! I sure as hell hate most of the CSS on site and can only use a specific few, one of which was Katie's before she unfortunately left. Your way of playing certainly works for you, but just saying for someone to do something the way you do it isn't going to work for so many users. Your way is specific and designed for you, not everyone else.

Hell, i'd be fine if it was like 3 rollovers so the time of a heat. it doesn;t have to be 7, I would just must prefer a rollover so then i am not forcing myself to ignore my mental health just to reclaim some lions which I spent ages trying to get.

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@ Fancy fork
That's when you ask folks. Simple as that.

@Rufus
Wiki exists. Top of the site bar. reclaim info here. Never assume anything when starting out. Research so you get a good start. I did. I've only lost probably a handful of lions I actually wanted to keep since I've been playing.

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@Fancy Fork
Then put your lore in a thread. We can do that. Stick the link in your pride bio

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Not everyone researches. It would be much easier having a reminder somewhere

Also asking folks to help you is begging, literally against the rules.

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Ehh, now versus in the future. These are pixelated/drawn lions.

How long are you going to play this game, you'll eventually forget about this game when you're older. I know there are players that are in their early 30's, some are in their 40's. Game is a game in the end.

I get not everyone wants to dedicate their entire life on a game when their life has other events happening. There are reasons why Help Desk or questions exist, there is no reason to be shy and not ask questions about something that isn't 100% so sure about.

I had a 14/15 NRLC run off on me, but I ain't crying about it because I personally don't see the reason to focus my attention to a pixelated lion over like my dog or something. Plus gives ya another project to think about or a goal to take care of a lion you want to keep if its that necessary to you.

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Asking for lions and stuff is begging. Asking for site help is just being smart. Lol.

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Lmao 1000+ players online too tho, no? Help desk on several lioden discord servers along a forum for help is there.

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I personally don't wanna put it in a thread just for reasons
feels weird to me
and again that won't really help if I have aging lions and no way to clear space
I have no idea how to message without sounding passive aggressive
I swear I'm not trying to do anything bad

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In short, if you need help just ask. If needed give folks a warning about how you word things. I'm a blunt person and can't keep track of how many people I've accidentally offended just by being so. Im not a very social person in real life so my social skills honestly suck. Once I clear up the misunderstanding they're usually more understanding.

As for the ageing issue, if you really want to keep them you'll make room. I always keep a supply of GB and SB tucked away for emergency space issues.

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I fully support Rufus' suggestion. I too have lost many lions due to the real life day count. I used to RO every day so I always assumed it was RO and not real life days. Now I have too many other things to worry about than RO every day, and some days I am only online for maybe 10 minutes tops. It is incredibly disheartening to come back to your entire pride leaving after getting out of a slump.

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Also about the limbo factor- there are millions of lions in this game. I'm sure having it switch to real life days wouldn't effect anything compared to some of the other massive coding overhauls that have been done. People lose lions every day so why would this now be a game crashing affair?

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Game is a game, Life is Life. Success isn't just a straight up arrow to success. Game has its first mistakes at the beginning, life has its ups and downs, success isn't something that happens right off the bat.

You learn off what was wrong, or change to do something different. In this case double checking the days, double checking space, making sure lions are fed/played. If you have no currency, then I suggest selling items in monkey business to get food bundle and give the food to specific lions, to the % that they won't leave so next morning you can spend a few minutes to actually explore for food or buy food.

Games come and go. Players come and go on this site. Games are a coping mechanism, yes but Lioden isn't meant forever. There are plenty of players who dedicated years onto this game but decided to leave because it was not worth it, they know that its not meant forever.

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I can't really tuck away any currency most of it is for my heir project :c
and I'm not specifically rich right now
I tend to get emotionally attached to my lions and that emotional attachment comes with 2 pages of lore so like, I can't get rid of it now till it dies
and a lot of my lionesses have that
and I'm not a clean breeder, if I do try sell lionesses for space it takes them ages to be sold anyways

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I'm having to repeat myself again, my main point is that when you have only 7 REAL LIFE days to rollover and you may be unable to or didn;t originally want to for whatever reason e.g freezing lions or not wanting to rollover as you have long work shifts and may not be able to feed them the next day, etc. you are having to force yourself to rollover if you want to, and it is stressful having to get the money on hand.

You do not seem to be listening to this and are coming up with arguments towards everything else. You can plan all you want, i do it all the time. I have a routine, a routine that works for me and is effective, but i forget more than once. Then i forget they ran. Sometimes i can;t rollover as me and fancy have been saying, and our lions run and we may forget during the time they are gone and before we know it they are gone. I am often confident i ahve a day or two left, but forget i rolled over on a date that was probably actually 7 or so days ago and i don't actually have any chances.

This game is quite literally mentally draining with the 7-day reclaiming mechanic. Its great we have it, but it is inconvenient to mental health. I understand it is a pixel lion game, but it is also very frustrating that I loose hundreds of GBs worth of lions just because i forget a day or two when it comes to when i lost my lions.

Also, I am sure you use FAPA due to your large amount of lions @lunar, which i have already mentioned that not everyone can afford that. FAPA doesn;t even use the resources you have in your inventory, all you have to do is click a button and you're done for the day, simple considering you have to pay 15GB for it for only 30 days. Convenient if you actually have the funds to spare. Most don't. I don't have a huge pride, i only ever have up to 30 at a time,a nd usually those are mostly raffle lions or CRBs.

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"if you really want to keep them you'll make room" - this is actually really shallow to say in all honesty. Not everyone has funds to spare, sometimes you forget that lions are aging up and with a last minute notification on your den, there isn;t much to do, especially if you have to pay 2GB, or even 5GB just for one slot. You may need the other adult lionesses, you may not. You may have room for some, but not for all. If i really want to keep them, then I want to keep them. Not being able to afford new slots doesn't at all mean I do not want them. being unable to make room and not wanting the lions are completely different.

I save up regularly, i ALWAYS have small SB bundles in my hoard when i start saving again, but when it comes to it it goes down fast and i may not be able to pay for everything, or to pay to claim every single lioness back. I really do save, i save loads of SB and GB, and because of my mistake every now and then i have to delve into it, or I use it to treat myself and buy a new lion, or to fund my projects, etc. etc.

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Whether or not i leave this game in the next week, month, year or even decade the function of the mechanic will always affect and it will not be a convenient one for me in specific, and many others. Telling me it is pointless to even bother with the lions when they go, or to even try getting them back, or to be reasonably upset when I lose them isn;t something I'm personally going to listen to. I will get upset over lions leaving no matter if i love or hate the game. No matter my age and no fucking matter whether or not I have the funds to get them back and house them. it is a game and it is a game i fucking enjoy and i would love to make it more convenient to so many who actually support the suggestion and look past the issues of 'get your priorities right' and 'you won't be playing this in a few years or decades so what's the point?'. The point is to be able to enjoy the game and restart when YOU want to. Not when you're struggling and being forced to because of a small mechanic.

All lions are stored on the game as a number, and having them stay for a few extra days for rollovers literally changes nothing? They still disappear if you fail to reclaim them. They still are deleted. Having them stick around in a tiny section for literally 7 days will do nothing to the game, as it's the exact same as if they hadn't run and were still being active within the pride.

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I think I'm hearing a lot of the frustration from people comes from misunderstanding the mechanic. I don't think the mechanic itself should be changed, but clarified text in-game should be added. It's understandable; almost everything else runs on rollovers. This particular one doesn't because people could exploit the limbo lions are put into. But Lioden should make that clearer.

However, there is indeed a wiki page, and it's not begging to ask for help understanding a game mechanic. Research for a game that has lions worth literal hundreds in real-life dollars should be encouraged and people SHOULD be researching regardless.

But still. Clarified in-game text. That's all I'm going to say about this, and I am genuinely sorry for everyone who's lost their lions. It fucking sucks.

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