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✿⊱ herbalwolf (#29879)

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2016-11-06 07:31:05
There are two types of Diabetes Mellitus; Type 1 and Type 2.

Type 1 is where the victim's pancreas cells get attacked by the body, because the body thinks it's a virus. The pancreas is where insulin is produced. Insulin is the liquid in the body that breaks down sugars; if insulin isn't in the body, sugar levels can rise. This is known as "hyperglycemia".
Type 1 and 2 can be found in animals, and without proper treatment, these animals can die quickly.

Diabetes isn't a birth mutation. You rather get it when you are older.
Type 1 is known as "juvenile diabetes"; Type 2 is known as "adult onset diabetes"

Juveniles are more known to get type 1(however adults can get it too) while type 2 can be obtained at any age due to not enough insulin being produced.

I was thinking if diabetes mellitus was put into the game, type 1 would be more centered around adolescent lions.
The warning would come before the cub turns 1 year old. I'm not sure if there is a herb that is like insulin, so no cure could be obtained.

SYMPTOMS OF TYPE 1(in game)
- The cub would get noticeably skinnier and skinnier each day that goes on.
- The cub's hunger wouldn't go up as much when fed.

SYMPTOMS OF TYPE 1(in real life)
- Excessive hunger and thirst
- Blurry vision
- Frequent bedwetting
- Weight loss
- Sleepiness
- Nausea/vomiting


Notes
Please understand I am a type 1 diabetic. I know about the disease, however I could be wrong at some points. If you know about it and I missed something, please don't hesitate to tell me
Anything you would like me to add, ask.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-08-02 09:39:44
Ignore the same message glitch lol

Diabetes type 1 is genetic, that I can confirm with a simple Google search:

" Scientists think type 1 diabetes is caused by **genes and environmental factors, such as viruses**, that might trigger the disease. "

- https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/



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peepy (#48100)

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2023-08-02 10:25:35
The first sentence of the first paragraph on the page you linked is this:

"Diabetes is a disease[...]"

Diseases and illnesses would be to similar to what Wolvden has, and the staff has already said that they don't want to add Wolvden gameplay to Lioden.

Also, a lethal cub mutation and AMP are mutually exclusive. If the cub never reaches adulthood, then it cannot express its mutation.



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Edited on 02/08/23 @ 10:30:39 by peepy (#48100)

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2023-08-02 11:06:11
It'd be the first adol lethal -- plus I heard you (TW FOR DEATH DUE TO ILLNESS)



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Edited on 02/08/23 @ 11:07:10 by Readytest (#431796)

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2023-08-02 11:11:19
The maneless Amp is present in adolescence -- Diabetes could present itself in adolescence. Remember adols are between 1 year and 1 year 11 months, you could use an item everyday of the adol's life -- to allow them to survive until adulthood ( die at 3-5 years 9 months instead at 1 year 3 months - 1 year 9 months )



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peepy (#48100)

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2023-08-02 11:22:36
Adolescents are still cubs for all intents and purposes. They don't occupy adult territory slots. They cannot gain stats from hunting or patrolling. They cannot breed. If they die from their disease before reaching adulthood (2 years of age), then they can't have an AMP.

I really don't see how that last part is relevant. If I was to be super pedantic like you, technically all lions have "lethal mutations" because they will all die, eventually. Unless you freeze them with an item or neglect to roll over until the website eventually shuts down.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-08-02 11:49:02
I think they'd either die at adolescence OR adulthood ( 3-5 years )



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2023-08-02 11:51:36
I didn't mean it that way, however, I still think it'd be a rad adolescent lethal mutation/amp lethal



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2023-08-03 15:22:24
Im kinda in the middle honestly. Diabetes is a disease, but it can be completely genetic based and sometimes, no matter your lifestyle, you can get it anyways. But cats dont typically have this type of diabetes. Diabetes in cats is almost always directly related to food and exercise.

For the in game aspect, it would be a decent idea to have them as a lethal if there was significant art change. There is no way a lion would survive diabetes at all, so I dont support them not being lethal. But unless there is a unique art change to make them trophies, it is senseless to put them in the game.

For now no support.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-08-12 21:32:31
I think diabetes type 1 is invisible to the normal person -- thus being hard to incorporate a different unique art change. Maybe when you immortalize said cub they instantly reveal their diabetes mut?

I still stand by my suggestion of making it a kind of adol/amp lethal. Since diabetes doesn't present itself until later in life.



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2023-08-14 06:44:48
In humans, diabetes 1 or 2 can change the appearance of someone by making them gain/lose unhealthy amounts of wieght. I am not super knowledgeable on the effects of cats, but that is the only way I can see this being a decent Mutation. I am pretty confident that the only diabetes present in cats is type 2, which means it has nothing to do woth genetics and everything to do with diet and excersize. Due to this it is pretty much impossible for lions to get as they are strictly carnivores and perform tons of exercise on a daily basis.

And type 2 diabetes is the only one that presents later in life, due to excersize and diet. Type1 diabetes, in humans of course, can appear in young juvenile stages, but again, this isn't present in felines.



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Readytest (#431796)

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2023-08-16 11:36:17
" but again, this isn't present in felines. "
- Corruptedhyena (#243378)

I don't see any harlequin Ichyosis cases in felines, nor Progeria cases, but they exist in lioden ( and the latter is in the works )



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Aura/Starfall (#209015)

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2023-08-27 21:21:20
No support this isn't a mutation it's a health condition



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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 21:26:33 by Aura/Starfall (#209015)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 21:32:02
I come here to get away from my Irl issues.. as a type 1 diabetic myself.
Its a Autoimmune disease and not a mutation;
I dont think it would be very fun taking care of a lion with a disease either with how different it is for each person who had it also there is no real way to make it the same overall as each person as different insulin resistance/etc many things
Along with the fact type 1 can be diagnosed from birth-adult years also. people get diagnosed up past 20+ years which is getting more common also.
Id rather not think of myself as a Mutant either. I already think of the fact i have dead organ in my body and the fact i can die from this disease isnt a plesant thing either despite knowing that without access to my insulin on a constant basis can kill me when im having issues with insurance to get my insulin

also! there are other forms of diabetes too not just 1 and 2
~The List
Gestational diabetes.
Maturity onset diabetes of the young (MODY)
Neonatal diabetes.
Wolfram Syndrome.
Alström Syndrome.
Latent Autoimmune diabetes in Adults (LADA)



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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 21:36:10 by LucifersHellHound(UnevenNefer) (#336298)







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