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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 17:15:59
There are five species in the Panthera genus. One of them is lions, the main focal point of this game. Two others, the leopard and tiger, have lion hybrids in this game. Another, the jaguar, is likely to never naturally meet the lion due to this thing called the Atlantic ocean.

But that's only four. What's the fifth?

The snow leopard. And I propose we have snow leopard/lion hybrids, what I call snowions, in this game.

Now, I realize that there are no living 'snowions' today. And that Snow Leopards are in north Asia and lions are in Africa.

However, I quote Wikipedia:

" In snow leopards and lions, the mitochondrial genomes of both species was more similar to each other than to other Panthera species, indicating that at some point in their history, the female progeny of the male ancestors of modern snow leopards and female ancestors of modern lions interbred with male ancestors of modern snow leopards."

So a Snowion sounds like it is more naturally possible than a leopon! Yay!

Now, I suspect you might have three questions:

How would the two cats meet?
What would they look like?
How would the in-game mechanics work out?

Well!

1. How they'd meet.

I propose we have an encounter in the December event. December seems most probable, but February could also work. I chose December due to all the 'snuh' on the ground in the LD-verse.

event location aside, something draws the male leopard down to Africa. Maybe it was the 'snuh', or maybe it was all the love in the air that awakened those good ol' mitochondrial DNA ties.

I see this playing out similarly to the August event 'Maneater' studs. There would be a link on the main event page that led to his lair. Now, this fella is elusive, just like all his kin, so he may only show up a few times a week, or he might be there several times a day! Who knows?

When you do find him in his den, he might greet you and express his interest in your pride, especially your in-heat ladies. However, this fellow also wants to see that you are a wealthy lion, because apparently wealth is a big thing for his people. So, he will ask you for an expensive LD item OR a very large amount of event currency. I dunno which yet.

Anyways, once you give him the currency or item(s), he'll tell you to come back tomorrow. This time, he'll be waiting for you and you can easily find him after rollover. He'll ask you to do a hard NPC-related quest in order to show your courage (maybe battle some elephants). Once you complete that quest, he will again tell you to meet him tomorrow.

When you meet him this time, he tells you he is pleased with you and he would like to grant you one favor in return for aiding him in this foreign land. You can ask him for two things: to breed with ONE of your in-heat ladies, or to give you an artifact from his land.

If you ask for the artifact, you will receive a Jade Token. Keep this in mind.

If you ask for the breeding, he will seem affronted, but he will agree if you give him a large amount of event currency. Then, just like with the Maneaters, you choose your lady and hit submit. At rollover, you will receive a message telling whether or not the leopard got your lady pregnant. I say there's a 75% success rate for this. If he fails, he'll give you a Jade Token Half.

You ask him to make two Jade Token Halves into a Jade Token. (Jade Tokens would work like normal items and can be traded/sold/gifted).

So, what the heck are Jade Tokens? Well, I am thinking that out Leopard friend was accompanied by a handsome male buddy of his down here, but they split ways. You can meet him (in a RARE encounter) wandering through Lioden. If you have the whole Token, you will have two options: fight or give token. Fight is just an NPC fight. Give Token has two options: he will ignore you or follow you curiously. If he ignores you, sorry! If he follows, you can click 'view Snow Leopard' and it will take you to a page that looks like the Maneater stud profile. For a lesser amount of event currency than his buddy, you can stud him to one of your in-heat girls. Again, this has a 75% chance of success.

Now, your girl is pregnant. Yay! the cubs will have a small chance (bigger than leopon but still small) to be born a Snowion!

2. What will they look like.

WIP

3. In-game mechanics

Females would be fertile, and males would not be. In fact, I imagine these guys behaving almost identically to Leopons.

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Anyways, that's the Snowion! Hope you enjoyed and tolerated my walls of text! Feel free to post suggestions and why you may not support!

Suggestions:

By 13th nightmare: make it a variant of Leopon kind of like how the Primals work (I really like this idea). No event required for this

Felicity Smoake: lower the quest requirements (less items currency) or maybe have a special event currency that he takes as a fee. Limit to breeding 1 or 2 females to him per person per rollover.

Rita Bane: zoo escapee?

Criticisms (I will not respond if you mention these again):
~Size and anatomies are very different (It's the genes that matter. Look at our diverse dog mixes aka Husky and Scottie!)
~Remote range (They can still access each other as land goes between their ranges)



This suggestion has 1062 supports and 70 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/09/17 @ 14:23:30 by Scottie (Orca-child) (#87211)

Inu [Arctic Ice
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2018-01-22 01:36:47
Jaguar lion hybrid is possible with that escaped jaguar running around - they could try to do the same with a snow leopard but I feel like... they would die of heat. (Like a husky in Florida)

This gave me the thought that a clouded leopard + lion could be cool, and now I really want a lion with clouded leopard rosettes.


I support the idea, somewhat. But the name needs changing XD



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Raina Chiaki (#54236)

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2018-01-26 08:50:08
A little torn on the idea. As a mutation, I love the idea of it as a hybrid, but at the same time, I don't agree with the way to get one. Just as leopons and (presumably) tigons, I feel it should be pure luck, not by breeding with an event stud



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Lelouch (#316)

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2018-01-26 13:43:21
What about any leopons born in December have a 50-75% chance to be a Snowion? And then the snowions could have maybe slightly higher chances to produce snowions than leopons have? So you get a snowion in December. A first gen has a 25% chance to produce a snowion and then 2nd gens and others have a 10% chance. This would balance out the only available for one month? Then it's a variant of leopons? Maybe out of December leopons only have a 5% chance to produce snowions?



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Juminakata (River) (#6903)

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2018-01-26 17:28:30
I think it should remain independent of events and other mutations. Perhaps during december can be when they give a storyline explaining why we have them, and introducing a clan of snow leopards that are exploring new lands, but they shouldn't be only available or more available in winter.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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2018-04-24 17:03:17
I know the name snow leopard is... misdirected.... they aren't really leopards so being a leopon variation while it sounds interesting... I'm not sure about the snow leopon idea.... otherwise I support.



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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2018-05-09 09:07:34
It would be near impossible to get one of these, then; pons can be obtained via breeding lion-to-lion but this would be pretty much a one-chance thing, not to mention entirely unfair on newbies, poor players, or those unwilling to pour their money into LD. If by chance a poor player managed to get an expensive breeding item (I'm going to use a GMO cow as an example) and was forced to give it up to the snow leopard to get the chance to get a snowion, they'd have to make a choice: keep the GMO cow for a big chance of getting another type of mutie, sell it to get more currency, or give it to the snow leopard for a very small chance of getting the snowion. I'd support the mutation idea but I can't support the means of getting it. This is wired completely to rich players :( No support.



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Ivy (Main) (#2473)

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2018-05-09 09:22:47
I think if people want hybrids and staffs ok with adding them then by all means have more hybrids in the game. I myself do not really care about them or the hype associated. And I think if they are going to introduce Tigon's all the barrier arguments and the they aren't found in Africa arguments should just be tossed out. And any argument should be focused on will this be cool enough to be a possible hybrid or not?

As I said I don't care about hybrids and if I randomly got one so be it might just sell it though, lol. But I do not go out of my way for them but I do know lots of people love them so that's why I made the points I made.



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Edited on 09/05/18 @ 09:24:52 by Ivy (Main) (#2473)

Evesda (#108455)

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2018-06-10 16:49:57
I really like this idea, and while I do think the event thing would be fun, Wolfie brought up a good point. Maybe if it doesn't work as an event, it could be a random breeding that could only happen during december (like how Cloudburst base can only be bred during the wet season)?
Over all I really enjoy this, though. Supporting!



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Dragonkin56 (#152149)

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2018-08-24 11:29:25
I just made some line art of how a snowion might look!
Visit the link below to see!!!!!


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm3yg6zgfO4/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=t3hpb0wxs9qf



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Aucean (#154529)

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2018-12-21 22:44:29
Keep in mind guys that there’s a jaguar encounter and same with a tiger encounter in explore, both lost from either escaping or lost being transported to a zoo. There’s a chance that could happen with a snow leopard and the zoos around Africa just have shitty guards



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osteoh (#48934)

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2018-12-24 23:39:34
I was thinking about this recently!

The way I pictured it, 1st generation snowleopons(??) would be obtainable only in December, after the "snuh" begins falling a bit more. 2nd+ gen would be obtainable year-round, by breeding female snowleopons, just like other hybrids. The idea is that the snow leopard only likes to visit when the weather's nice and chilly, and he dips out as soon as it starts to warm up again.

However, due to them being available only once a year, I propose an event encounter that functions similarly to the Tigon boost encounter from November. Due to the limited nature of 1st gen snowleopons, I imagine that the boost itself would be a bit higher, OR the encounter slightly more common. (Personally, I like the sound of the encounter just being more common than the Tigon encounter- lots of people never saw the encounter even once, which is kind of a bummer!)

The issue is, because there are no known snow leopard x lion hybrids, Lioden artists would have to pretty much completely imagine what these guys would look like, with no IRL reference. If that's something they're up for, I think this would be a fun hybrid to have, and would fit in well with December's relatively silly, snowy event.



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Moses 🍉 (#95222)


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2019-03-03 17:20:04
Support! Interesting concept. I would like to point out that, the only reason we might not have lion x snow leopards (ignoring the fact that it’s extremely against the conservation movement and that snow leopards are already a vulnerable species) is that there aren’t a lot of snow leopards in zoos, much less being placed near or with lions.

However, I don’t support the idea of snow leopards x lions being obtained from leopons during December. I feel like it would make them too hard to obtain.



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Edited on 03/03/19 @ 17:26:16 by eristhebeast (#95222)

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2019-06-05 20:42:01
Very creative! I personally think that he would demand currency. That way the hybrid would be more accessible even for more inexperienced players or players who don't have any GB, expensive items, etc.



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oldyeller (#118379)

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2019-06-07 21:35:37
i think the whole process of getting the hybrid is way too complicated and filled with too many odds, but i really like the idea of a snowion. i dont think you should have to use event currency- i dont think it should have any price. i think it'd be nice if it went along similarly to the tigon event, with random encounters leading up to it, and a very rare explore counter for a small chance to get one. overall i really do like the idea of a snowion, and i might sketch something up later




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cowboy suitcase (#171433)

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2019-06-10 18:21:07
YES SNOW LEOPARD HYBRIDS!!!!

They're my favorite feline species, mixing them with a lion would be insane!!!! 10000000% support!



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