Posted by Hybrid idea: Snowion

Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 17:15:59
There are five species in the Panthera genus. One of them is lions, the main focal point of this game. Two others, the leopard and tiger, have lion hybrids in this game. Another, the jaguar, is likely to never naturally meet the lion due to this thing called the Atlantic ocean.

But that's only four. What's the fifth?

The snow leopard. And I propose we have snow leopard/lion hybrids, what I call snowions, in this game.

Now, I realize that there are no living 'snowions' today. And that Snow Leopards are in north Asia and lions are in Africa.

However, I quote Wikipedia:

" In snow leopards and lions, the mitochondrial genomes of both species was more similar to each other than to other Panthera species, indicating that at some point in their history, the female progeny of the male ancestors of modern snow leopards and female ancestors of modern lions interbred with male ancestors of modern snow leopards."

So a Snowion sounds like it is more naturally possible than a leopon! Yay!

Now, I suspect you might have three questions:

How would the two cats meet?
What would they look like?
How would the in-game mechanics work out?

Well!

1. How they'd meet.

I propose we have an encounter in the December event. December seems most probable, but February could also work. I chose December due to all the 'snuh' on the ground in the LD-verse.

event location aside, something draws the male leopard down to Africa. Maybe it was the 'snuh', or maybe it was all the love in the air that awakened those good ol' mitochondrial DNA ties.

I see this playing out similarly to the August event 'Maneater' studs. There would be a link on the main event page that led to his lair. Now, this fella is elusive, just like all his kin, so he may only show up a few times a week, or he might be there several times a day! Who knows?

When you do find him in his den, he might greet you and express his interest in your pride, especially your in-heat ladies. However, this fellow also wants to see that you are a wealthy lion, because apparently wealth is a big thing for his people. So, he will ask you for an expensive LD item OR a very large amount of event currency. I dunno which yet.

Anyways, once you give him the currency or item(s), he'll tell you to come back tomorrow. This time, he'll be waiting for you and you can easily find him after rollover. He'll ask you to do a hard NPC-related quest in order to show your courage (maybe battle some elephants). Once you complete that quest, he will again tell you to meet him tomorrow.

When you meet him this time, he tells you he is pleased with you and he would like to grant you one favor in return for aiding him in this foreign land. You can ask him for two things: to breed with ONE of your in-heat ladies, or to give you an artifact from his land.

If you ask for the artifact, you will receive a Jade Token. Keep this in mind.

If you ask for the breeding, he will seem affronted, but he will agree if you give him a large amount of event currency. Then, just like with the Maneaters, you choose your lady and hit submit. At rollover, you will receive a message telling whether or not the leopard got your lady pregnant. I say there's a 75% success rate for this. If he fails, he'll give you a Jade Token Half.

You ask him to make two Jade Token Halves into a Jade Token. (Jade Tokens would work like normal items and can be traded/sold/gifted).

So, what the heck are Jade Tokens? Well, I am thinking that out Leopard friend was accompanied by a handsome male buddy of his down here, but they split ways. You can meet him (in a RARE encounter) wandering through Lioden. If you have the whole Token, you will have two options: fight or give token. Fight is just an NPC fight. Give Token has two options: he will ignore you or follow you curiously. If he ignores you, sorry! If he follows, you can click 'view Snow Leopard' and it will take you to a page that looks like the Maneater stud profile. For a lesser amount of event currency than his buddy, you can stud him to one of your in-heat girls. Again, this has a 75% chance of success.

Now, your girl is pregnant. Yay! the cubs will have a small chance (bigger than leopon but still small) to be born a Snowion!

2. What will they look like.

WIP

3. In-game mechanics

Females would be fertile, and males would not be. In fact, I imagine these guys behaving almost identically to Leopons.

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Anyways, that's the Snowion! Hope you enjoyed and tolerated my walls of text! Feel free to post suggestions and why you may not support!

Suggestions:

By 13th nightmare: make it a variant of Leopon kind of like how the Primals work (I really like this idea). No event required for this

Felicity Smoake: lower the quest requirements (less items currency) or maybe have a special event currency that he takes as a fee. Limit to breeding 1 or 2 females to him per person per rollover.

Rita Bane: zoo escapee?

Criticisms (I will not respond if you mention these again):
~Size and anatomies are very different (It's the genes that matter. Look at our diverse dog mixes aka Husky and Scottie!)
~Remote range (They can still access each other as land goes between their ranges)



This suggestion has 1061 supports and 70 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/09/17 @ 14:23:30 by Scottie (Orca-child) (#87211)

𝕂𝕒𝕪𝕝𝕒 (#11123)

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2019-07-18 13:25:09
i just dont like the name, the entire idea is cool but snowion is kind of annoying to say



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2020-04-21 20:46:12
*shamelessly bumps*



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2020-11-02 15:51:54
im not sure about the encounters. maybe just keep it as a hype thing for a bit like the tigon hype and then get rid of it?



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J7xZ1vB (#152232)

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2020-11-04 16:11:45
I think I'd prefer they be called "Snow Leopons" rather than snowions. Otherwise, this is an awesome idea and I was about to make my own suggestion post before I saw this.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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2020-11-05 14:46:12
Im.a bit conflicted. Lions cant breed with snow leopards.



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Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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2021-12-02 17:29:00
Unfortunately I dont support. I think the idea is nice, don't get me wrong, but hybrids are already a pain in the backside to get, and imagine how expensive it would be to get a 'snowion', since you can only get it once a year if you didn't manage to get any from the lioness you already got. And I think the whole 3 rollover wait is a bit unnecessary, there should be an option to pay to not wait imo, or just wait one rollover since all youret doing is a NPC fight, so waiting so long just for an answer is sort of pointless to me.

And since it's a variation of leopard, it would literally just be a white leopon, and the different bases in LD would defeat the purpose of a white leopon, which would then just make it so you may as well just get a leopon instead.



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Edited on 02/12/21 @ 17:30:08 by Rufus (#177615)

Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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2021-12-03 03:45:15
Also uhm, I think the thread owner has quit lioden because i can't view their account lol



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Shyrawr (#236696)

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2021-12-03 15:04:52
No support. I just don't like this idea. There's no point in adding it (They ARE just white leopons) and the encounters seem weird. Plus, if we could encounter him EVERY December, even with a rare chance I feel like that makes them not worth it. They're still just white leopons so why would you? Lipards also already exist as decor so if they DO add these "snowions" they might just be added as decor if not rejected.



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Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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2021-12-03 15:06:22
@Shyrawr 100% agreed.
You'd literally just be getting a lethal as well, because it WOULDN'T survive in the heat.
And you'd just be getting a differently posed lion that has no purpose other than being white, which is literally useless.



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Sprigatito G1 Deca (#169873)

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2021-12-04 19:48:09
Support, but as a variation of a Leopon (like how that other thread suggests hybrid 1st gen variations).

Realistic survivability doesn't matter to me. We have green lions, lions from outer space, and the literal apocalypse happening every year; a snow leopard hybrid surviving in Africa wouldn't make me think twice lol.



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✨Cat(Left)✨ (#209145)

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2022-01-26 22:59:38
I like this idea, The cubs could look like leopons but more fluffy and maybe with their own event marks, however Im not too fond of the event idea,
I think it could work better if to unlock the den you had to meet him in a rare explore encounter(option to maybe introduce yourself or follow vs fight, choosing fight will cause you to not see this npc for the rest of event) and only then can you unlock his den (dropping the whole jade side quest)
now yes he should be there rarely and maybe be more of a shy npcwho is rarely seen, rather that a posh cat who needs to be impressed, he could just give difficult quests to complete to help him return to his home maybe? or some other task and yes Dec seems to work best



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Pyespie (G2 Seth) (#195774)

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2022-08-25 13:57:25
Ohh, this is a real neat idea, I would love to see this hybrid in lioden I absolutely adore snow leopards and think they're so beautiful, would totally try really hard to get their bases and marks specifically more than tigons or leopons haha, though it'd be an extremely tough challenge



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2022-08-25 14:04:04
I like this, but. I think if it were to happen, it should be a december-only thing, but it happens just like G1 leopons and tigons.

Also, as far as I'm aware, (and I'm currently researching on hybrid big-cats and colour morphs), no hybrid has ever been attempted between the two because any snow leopards are used for breeding programmes due to their endangered species. But, the genetics for it to happen could be possible, I just thought that their anatomy is very different so creating a hybrid would be quite hard.
Good job though!



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Posted on
2022-09-17 19:04:39
SNUHIONS



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Flower_of_the_Sun (#36232)

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2022-10-03 22:33:21
Someone kind of mentioned this above, but I'm going to expand on it a bit, rather than a recurring December event where you could only breed it in December, it might work better to have them introduced during December with an event like the tigon hype event where there's a boosted chance possibility for a bit, and then after that have them function like any other hybrid (and the hype not be a repeating event). They could all have the same snow leopard father, like tigons have Ashkarn.

I'e aso got to agree that the name needs work. When I saw it I thought, "What's that, a hybrid between a lion and a snow man?"



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Edited on 03/10/22 @ 22:34:02 by Flower_of_the_Sun (#36232)







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