Posted by [ALL] stop increasing event bars

Sync[Clean
Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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Posted on
2017-09-02 00:59:06
Title says all. Seriously just let people unlock shit please. Do you know how disappointing it is to see the event bar getting close to unlocking, only for the percentage to suddenly be way farther back? Like, seriously- let people unlock what they worked for without increasing the amount needed at the start of the month.

There is NOTHING wrong with things being unlocked sooner. If you want certain things to only unlock after a set amount of time... we have the storylines for that, their chapters are scheduled. Half the time when the bar is raised we end up with only like 4 days to use the last tier by the time it's FINALLY opened... and tbh that gets really annoying. No one likes waiting almost the entire month for the final tier to unlock bc the staff decided we were unlocking stuff "too fast".

Hell, sometimes the staff have to manually unlock the final tier after increasing the amount needed bc you raise the bar so outrageously high that we can't unlock it, and in that case, the staff only actually do it like 3 days before the event ends. We should have AT THE LEAST a week with the final tier open, not everyone's gonna be on for those last 3 days.

And I also clearly remember one time where the staff refused to unlock the final tier after increasing the bar in the first place to penalize the users for not being able to unlock it at the increased price... like?? why??

please just stop doing this no one likes it, its disheartening and annoying. just let people unlock stuff without ripping it away from them and making them wait longer.

tl;dr pick a number and stick with it at the beginning of the event



This suggestion has 267 supports and 30 NO supports.



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Edited on 23/07/19 @ 19:13:28 by a Moderator

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2017-09-07 12:25:06

[I've obviously already supported]

It's highly possible that this is just speculation, but maybe they're having a hard time with the pros & cons of both options (Community Opening vs. Date Opening) since with community opening it is possible to open things very very fast if the underestimate the community for that month, but with date openings there is a chance the community will lose interest fast since they technically don't have to do anything and the tiers will open by themselves with time. Just a thought, of course. They could make 2 requirements. Say, it has to be x day of the month plus you have to have the bar full. The obvious con of this is that we will fill the bar and have to wait until the x day for it to open, which means the community might slack (although a fix to this would be that you could continue to unlock bars past the current one. They just wouldn't open still until their dates. But of course, once tier 3 is unlocked we would be back at square one because the community runs out of bars to fill and just sits and waits for the date). I agree with what someone else said somewhere about overestimating the bars and then dropping them as needed if it's clear we can't fill them in a timely manner. It's much less a slap in the face; however, if they dropped the bars I would still prefer a warning. I really can kinda understand taking the first day to adjust bars, but they don't tell us jack shit, and that is 99% of our problems.




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Nyx [IC] (#121662)

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2017-09-07 12:55:11
I think you hit it on the nose, Heda. The goalpost moving is problematic, but our core problem here is the staff has completely disconnected from us. They see no need to keep us informed.



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Sync[Clean
Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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Posted on
2017-09-07 23:53:45
tbh the "they're using previous months' data and can't properly calculate shit" etc etc excuse is complete and total bullshit bc who cares if shit is unlocked earlier, it's not a bad thing if we get to access the shops earlier than intended... it just means we don't have to wait the entire goddamn month to be able to access the shops and buy the shit we want. we still have to collect the currency anyway so who gives a rat's ass if the bar is unlocked faster. there is no point to raising the bars after the event starts at all point blank. i don't care if all tiers unlock on the first day, that just shows the community put in the effort and got what they worked for quickly.

raising the bars just bc "you're unlocking it too fast!!!" is fucking stupid. there's no point in the bars even being a thing if you want it to unlock after a specific amount of time.



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Nyx [IC] (#121662)

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2017-09-08 06:26:02
I agree 100% Synchron. I think unlocking earlier is better too, but I also know the staff knows stuff we don't about how they want events to go/how they planned things, even how much content they have READY to be unlocked. That's why I'm willing to accept shifting/changes if they're transparent about it. I mean, if we unlocked a tier too fast and they didn't have the items fully in (which could very well be it from how much seems to be added), what then?

Like, if all things were equal I agree totally. I think it should unlock based on how fast we work (and faster means more community efforts!), but I'm just saying I've done enough website work to understand that the idea may not be "we want it to unlock after this date only" and instead may be "oh shit we don't have stuff ready for this we need to delay it a little". Which is an entirely different problem outside of this thread's subject.

That being said, yeah, you're absolutely right. The fact we still need to gather currency means that we're not going to be getting everything on Day 1 and then not bothering (which is... a very gray-area-muddy problem, but again, not the scope of this thread), so they don't have that excuse to fall back on.



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Sync[Clean
Interstellar Ferus] (#75103)

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2019-04-04 23:22:01
Apparently I need to bump this again, since the mods are STILL doing this. The damn April event bar for second tier, at like 99%, and the admins literally more than DOUBLED the amount of eggs needed.

This is ridiculous and unfair.



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Belezza (#43622)

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2019-04-04 23:39:33
I was wondering what happened! I logged in earlier and it was at 99% and now we’re nowhere near it again.



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Lalupine |Velvet
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2019-04-04 23:57:08
I was looking for an explanation as to why the bar dropped from 99% without the next tier opening up. It's disappointing to say the least, and honestly makes me not want to participate if that's how staff is going to play the game. :/

Like if you set the bar too low you still need to commit to it, not randomly raise it because it's being unlocked 'too quickly'.



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KPOPER4LYF (#73764)

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2019-04-04 23:59:46
I agree with everyone who Hates how these UK ppl think it's funny to raise the bar higher. For an American like me we worked hard to get our Independence and I am a hard worker at that trying to get eggs etc and I just think ppl here need to go take a math course again. This month will be my first time doing an event since my hiatus and some of the rules are ridiculously annoying. They are also way to strict without asking bothering parties about what's going on etc



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Just pain (#93387)

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Posted on
2019-04-05 00:42:32
Yeah, about that.



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neobug (#145890)

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2019-08-02 08:47:49
I noticed last month that they bumped "The Demiurge" from 150 MS to 200? Like, what happened there? Maybe I misread something though, but I swore I see the change.

Why give us a certain goal if you're gonna change it? It's like a magician telling you to close your eyes so he can do his trick. Don't set us something to look forward to and begin jacking different rules up, this isn't Alice in Wonderland. This is Lioden! :(

I sorta see both sides, but I don't get why they haven't fixed this yet



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Phantom StarsX 2nd
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2020-09-09 19:49:20
Support... it's been weird returning after two years but this I definitely remember. It's hard to be excited seeing the bar at 92% just thinking its gonna get moved again. Its exasperating and frankly disheartening, and just hard to get excited knowing theres no guarantee they wont just move the goal post.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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2020-09-10 10:32:30
The other thing that bothers me about this is people sometimes buy and use energy boosts to help open the tiers faster and get more currency. Moving it back just punishes people for buying energy items when people are excited for the tiers.



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AsmodeusFangs (#142550)


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2020-10-23 13:06:01
this has been so normal on the site i didn't even know it was going on- everytime the bar went down i just assumed we got to the next tier and figured it hadnt loaded in for me yet-



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