hi! I think you chose a very nice pose to show it off, but unfortunately most older lioden linearts won't look good with it:



is it possible to make a lighter version? :)
I think also the markings on it are a little rough, I'd probably do a softer version for LD - closer to first one, just less sharp edges

Also if we ever accept it, I'd need to change the name, so hopefully you could come up with some alternatives, if not, we will!

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i think the other colours even it out though? like that's the darkest colour you're using and it looks fine along the lions back just not on the stomach or hips where other colours are @xylax

also it doesn't look to good on the OLD line arts but it looks good on the newer,
so when the old line arts hopefully get updated it could actually work.

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Xylax, wouldn't you blend the light underbelly into it?

That old lineart mockup is only the darkest color of the base, lacking the full bright underbelly that blends in, and it also doesn't have its light speckles yet. Shouldn't you try that balancing it with that first before calling it too dark?

I don't know, it just seems odd to base your criticism around a base that's 30% done at most, or imply that's how you'd add it into the game unfinished. Not that LD would add an unfinished base in ^^

EDIT: Nothing's wrong with criticism though, if you have a concern over a flaw in a base and point it out then that's literally just a comment of criticism. You shouldn't be taking the word criticism to be negative at all.

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Isn't the News poll about colors darker than Onyx? Elysian has very dark portions too- worst comes to worst, why not show a slightly lighter mockup, given you seem to have been working on it? Instead of nitpicking a suggestion to deliver a fully complete base when it's just that- a suggestion.

Full support, though I think I supported last year lmao- this will forever be Ember in our hearts, it truly captures the heat of embers floating off a camp fire <3

(If you're busy Janoraptor, I'll gladly give the extra mockup suggested a shot! <3)

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I don't know.... Demonic is pretty dark too.

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^ Yeah, Demonic is already dark enough on the lineart and doesn't have nearly as light of an underbelly. Plus Elysian also gets pretty dark.

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So the new base that's supposed to be darker than onyx is the exact same color as this base-

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see you space cowboy :(

you were the true ember from the beginning to the end

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I really like this base suggestion, but I do get where Xy is coming from. The linearts for poses is "newer and thicker" than the default linearts. The base would look different on tigon lineart and even mane imperial lineart compared to default lioness lineart. Granted the entire base will not be composed of the flat base colour, but it will still be touching some parts of the old lineart and might look a little funky.

Regardless, I've supported this since it was posted! I love the gold flecks in Version 1.

@chamango, while this isn't related to the base suggestion, I just wanted to point out two things:
1. What's being polled is a new marking colour, not a base colour (yet, anyways).
2. The flat base colour in this suggestion is actually darker than the new proposed "darker than onyx" colour.



Just wanted to provide a visual example!
Left is the flat base colour within this suggestion while right is the new proposed nameless colour.

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@katze this player quit, so the base's original mockups can't be altered or lightened now.

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i understand the player who made this suggestion quit so this suggestion might not have a chance to be added anymore, and at the very least won't ever be updated. but i compared velvet and ember and the difference seems practically like a semantic- at the most, the colorpicks are slightly different, and at the least it's the difference of a warm v.s. a cool tone, not even an objectively darker color.

really, i'd argue calling this suggestion too dark to work with the lineart defeats the point of this being a full base in the first place. see how velvet IS lighter than the ember flat even though i compared them? that's because the artists compensated and used highlights of slightly lighter black, along with the speckles to resemble dust on velvet. ember would never obscure the lineart in practice, because the artists should compensate in the same way by using warm browns and the bright gold to lighten the rest of the base. as users above have pointed out, there are bases with slightly darker areas than onyx, and as katze pointed out, there is going to be a marking color darker than onyx- and markings are different from bases. accordingly, the darkest dark of this base would be a highlight, and using it as a flat would be like using the darkest shoulder points of elysian as a flat- it's ineffective. plus after the feedback for the (nox/noctis/styx) color (i love it!) a very, very dark highlight would most likely be welcomed. (small edit: as in something having parts that are 'too dark' would actually be appreciated rather than picked at by the userbase- just look at how popular black dark categories in general are.)

^ the palettes of ember and velvet- how while the flats are incredibly similar using only the flat obscures the point that the base most likely works. blending the dark brown second color into the flat would quickly turn it light enough for the lineart.

this goes for many other bases as well. scoundrel has many accent colors and the flat looks different from the final, as a new example, demonic's flat being solid saturated red would put most of the userbase off, labradorite's flat is either bright sky blue or dark brown which would both be misleading, etc. like any base with a more complex pattern, this base can't objectively be considered to be too dark until it's blended out and compared to demonic, ebony, elysian, and velvet, and if it was too dark it would be the art team's responsibility to use both their talent and past experience to slightly alter it like they do to most other accepted suggestions themselves.

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Love this concept!

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Well Noctis ended up becoming a base darker than Ember :'] RIP

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I love four!!!!

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the current ember base doesn't even look like an ember—it should have been named Scorch or Blister (or something less pretty than ember lmao)

regardless, maybe this base name could be Flare? or Flicker? i still really love this base and i think it would be a gorgeous warm-colored addition to the mostly cool-toned black dark bases

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