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2020-11-21 16:52:04

A Guide to Rosettes


or, "How do I get rosettes?"


Rosettes are one of the most sought after markings on site. To help everyone understand more about rosettes and the chances of passing them naturally, I've made this guide/study!

The study part of this is that when I have the SB, I go into the Scrying Stone, get some water, and sit there clicking to see the outcome of two cubs (generally between lions that have rosettes). I record my results, and eventually clean them up so that whoever views this may see it! I have plans to eventually add all rosettes and their additional pass rates in.

If you are looking for the actual study/observation notes, they are on the second post of this thread.

Do note that this is ongoing, and that this may not have your specific rosette (yet). My percentages may also be off, as I'm one person, and sometimes my eyes can skip over things, or sometimes I miscount by a couple digits.



Basic Terms/Knowledge

As of today (January 1st, 2023), there are 60 rosettes in-game, which can all be found on this page on the Wiki.
The three main types of rosettes are Rosette, Soft Rosette, and Heavy Rosette, which are spoilered below.

In addition to this, there are also Inverted versions of these main types.

The main note for color is that the most commonly wanted rosettes tend to be non-inverted and dark. Ebony, Noctis, and Onyx rosettes are always being sought after. However, there are other colors such as Auburn, Red, and Gold. For a better look at the colors of rosettes, please click the link at the top of this section.
Mottled Rosette is a special case. It has it's own design and coloration.


Mottled Rosette

Mottled Rosette only appears on first gen Leopons, and can only be passed down by Leopons and their offspring. This is the only way you can get Mottled Rosette. All lions with Mottled Rosette are descended from a Leopon, even if they do not have any heritage.
Rosettes names are also usually shortened.

They can be shortened into acronyms (i.e., Noctis Heavy Rosette => NHR, Mottled Rosette => MR), and sometimes a rosette is just referred to as a 'ros/rose'.

For inverted rosettes, they're usually shorted using 'inv', and that can be added onto either of the above terms, i.e. 'inv ros' or 'inv CHR'.
Finally, there are 3 different ways to make a lion with Rosettes: through RMAs, breeding to a lion with a rosette, or just completely randomly.

(Note: If you're looking for a single rosette lion, check around the Trading Center. They're typically around/less than 1200 or 1 .)


Rosettes Through RMAs

All rosettes except MR can be obtained through RMAs (Random Marking Applicators), which can be bought through the Oasis for 1 , or by rolling your account 29 days in a row.

However, there is only a 0.1%, or a 1/1000 chance of getting a rosette from an RMA.

If you are attempting to get a rosette via an RMA, you also have to invest in Marking Removals as well since there is limited number marking slots. These can be bought through Oasis for 1 .

This method is best if you are trying to turn a x2 rosette into a x3 or x4 rosette.

Rosettes Through Breeding

Rosettes are most commonly obtained through breeding, however, they have a much lower pass rate than other markings on Lioden. This is also the only way that MR can be applied to a lion.

The best way to go about breeding for a rosette is to obtain an Ochre Gnawrock, aka a gnaw. A gnaw allows you to 100% guarantee that a marking of your choosing will pass onto it's cubs. However, only 1 gnaw can be applied to a lion at a time. If you're using a gnawrock, you can only guarantee double rosettes by gnawing a rosette from each parent.

Ochre Gnawrocks are unlocked in Tier 2 of the Prophet Shop in September, and can be bought for 150 Jewel Beetles. Their prices steadily raise throughout the year, being ~15-20 during the event and getting up to ~50 later on.

Mottled Rosette is a special case in breeding. If you're breeding a leopon who has MR, MR has an increased chance of passing. If you want MR on a specific breed-only base, breeding a leopon with MR is your best chance. This increased pass rate is only for MR on pons.
As of 11/21/2020, from what I can tell, the general pass rate of a rosette marking is approximately ~3.85%. This doesn't take into account possible different pass rates for different rosettes, so take this information with a grain of salt. It will be periodically updated.

To help your chances with getting a rosette to naturally pass:

Check which marking slot the rosette you want to pass is in. Then, check the other parent of the litter and make sure they do not have a marking in that slot, or if they do, they also have a rosette.

As other markings have a higher pass rate than rosettes, you don't want the rosette you're trying to pass to possibly get pushed out by a different marking.

Additionally, you can raise your chances of getting a specific rosette by breeding two parents with the same rosette marking in the same slot.

Random Rosettes

There's also a small chance for a rosette to just randomly appear on a lion, regardless of what markings its parents have.

Currently, there is known reason for what causes a random rosette to appear. As more information comes in about this, I'll update this section.

From my current findings, the possibility of a random rosette appearing is ~0.25%. However, this is without knowing what causes a random rosette to appear. You should not count on getting a rosette through this method.

Current theories for boosting the chance of getting a random rosette include:
  • White undermarkings on either parent

  • Daytime/Nighttime

  • ID numbers matching in some way

Additional Questions?


Hopefully this helped clear up how to get a rosette, how to breed one, etc. If you have any more questions or criticisms, feel free to post them! I'll try to reply to everything I can.



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Edited on 25/08/23 @ 20:04:22 by pluto 🌌 (#52831)

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2020-11-21 16:52:15

What About Pass Rates?



If you're in this section, you're looking for specific pass rates! This section of the guide is still very much a WIP, and as such, please take all information with a grain of salt.

Each section is sorted via Rosette.



Mottled Rosette

G1 Pon bred w/ a default king
  • Trials Ran: 100

  • Successful Trials: 53

  • Pass Rate: 53%
G1 Pon bred w/ a king that only had MR
  • Trials Ran: 100

  • Successful Trials: 73

  • Pass Rate: 73%


Regular Rosettes

Noctis Rosette
  • Trials Ran: 2000

  • Successful Trials: 16

  • Pass Rate: 0.8%

Note: This was done between a pair where one parent had a marking in the same slot. The actual pass rate may be higher.



Soft Rosettes

Noctis Soft Rosette
  • Trials Ran: 2000

  • Successful Trials: 40

  • Pass Rate: 2%


Heavy Rosettes

Noctis Heavy Rosette
  • Trials Ran: 2000

  • Successful Trials: 21

  • Pass Rate: 1.05%

Note: This was done between a pair where one parent had a marking in the same slot. The actual pass rate may be higher.



(This spoiler is for my own ease of access while I'm still adding in rosettes.)



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Edited on 25/08/23 @ 19:21:10 by pluto 🌌 (#52831)

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Posted on
2020-11-21 16:52:26
(extra just in case)



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Gallifreyaan (#73034)

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Posted on
2020-11-21 16:54:16
Bookmarked! Thank you for this :)



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Posted on
2020-11-21 16:58:15
PLUTO IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD



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pluto 🌌 (#52831)

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2020-11-21 17:00:31
@Gallifreyaan - No problem! I was surprised when I saw there were no rosette guides. Hopefully I'll be able to update it to be even more helpful once I get more pass rate info!

@Lynx - THANK YOU, I AM DYING IN HTML!



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2020-11-21 17:02:54
vv professional!



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Edited on 03/12/21 @ 04:40:05 by Queen poop me Pacha/G3 Ferus (#172483)

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2020-11-27 11:04:12
@Pacha - ooh! Nice!! Can you tell me more about it and what you noticed? I'll go through your caves later on, just busy right now. :)



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Edited on 27/11/20 @ 11:33:42 by Pacha Mom Queen of RNG (#172483)

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Posted on
2021-08-06 10:08:52
I just somehow got a ginger rosette baby, neither parents have ginger rosette lol anyone know why? Dad is a double rosette, but not Ginger

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794153342408



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2021-08-06 13:07:44
@Whisper Willow - That cub is a random rosette! There's not too much known as to why they appear so far, just that its a really low chance for a cub to receive a rosette that neither parent has. Congrats! :)

I haven't updated this guide in awhile, but from what I'm aware of there hasn't been anything new on why random rosettes appear.



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Bruhhh I needed this. Thank you



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Posted on
2022-08-18 03:23:33
This thread actually helped a lot! I had a baby born with rosette this morning (red soft), and neither of her parents have one and was SO confused as to where she got it from



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@Moth - I'm glad to hear that it helped!



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thank you



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