Posted by Raffle Lioness Vs G1 Leopon/Tigon

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2023-02-21 09:25:27
I'm just curious, what do people think is more likely: winning a Raffle Lioness OR breeding a first-gen leopon or tigon? I'd love to see people who love working with numbers chime in. Which do you think has the best odds? I know the base rates and such, but I wonder how they compare to each other?

(I didn't really know where to put this but plopped it here since it has to somewhat do with obtaining/breeding lions.)



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Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)

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2023-02-21 09:33:19
Breeding a first gen is way more likely.

Source: me

xP I don't know the exact numbers but 1 in 10000+ for the raffle lady is not good odds, especially just once per week.



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2023-02-21 09:37:30
There's a 1 in 20,000 chance for a first gon or pon with each CRB breeding

The raffle ladies are usually 1 in 10,000-20,000 each week with the requirement you have to have one lioness slot open for her to be able to enter your pride. Under the circumstance you have two accounts and both enter for a chance at winning her it becomes a 2 in 10,000-20,000 chance.



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Edited on 21/02/23 @ 09:41:05 by WowblueSky (#280529)

gradualdark [G1
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2023-02-21 09:41:31
Wow, then it must be significantly higher to get a G1 Leopon/Tigon WITHOUT using CRBs. (That much is quite obvious since I've yet to get a G1 Leopon/Tigon myself and have not yet done mass breeding for it.)



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Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)

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2023-02-21 09:44:42
CRBs will increase your chances but mine happened randomly so



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2023-02-21 09:45:15
There's 365 days in a year, and about 52 Weeks. You have a 0.52% chance of obtaining a Raffle lioness by the end of the year.

Meanwhile the first gen pon/gon chance starts out at 0.005% and if you where to breed a CRB for each day of the year (365) you end out with a 1.79% chance of getting a first gen pon or gon



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gradualdark [G1
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2023-02-21 09:46:38
Oh yes, I definitely know the mechanics of breeding for a G1 but I'm just much more interested in numbers comparing raffle lionesses against them. Like, we can definitely get very lucky, but I'm more interested in the numbers when you're not lucky, if that makes sense, lol.



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2023-02-21 09:47:15
The gon/pon chance is more likely with CRB. Not sure about the stats without CRB

Getting a first gen pon/gon is a lot more obtainable then receiving an orginal raffle lioness



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Edited on 21/02/23 @ 09:48:39 by WowblueSky (#280529)

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2023-02-21 09:48:31
"There's 365 days in a year, and about 52 Weeks. You have a 0.52% chance of obtaining a Raffle lioness by the end of the year.

Meanwhile the first gen pon/gon chance starts out at 0.005% and if you where to breed a CRB for each day of the year (365) you end out with a 1.79% chance of getting a first gen pon or gon"

WowblueSky -- this is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thanks!



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2023-02-21 09:49:04
No problem! Wish you luck.



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2023-02-21 09:52:03
Can i ask where you got those numbers from, Wowbluesky? :o as in the 1/20 000 per CRB breeding?
just curious as I've never been able to find that kind of data before.

I myself did a large scale CRB project for a hybrid, and she was born after 730 CRBs or about 1044 cubs bred with CRB.

I also collected all the numbers i was able to find from other people doing CRB breedings for hybrids, and based on the sample size i found, the average was about 450~ CRB per first gen hybrid born. The luckiest I found being 130 CRB, unluckiest 1114.



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2023-02-21 09:54:11
ooo haven't seen that before, thank you :o



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2023-02-21 09:55:10
No problem. I sure hope the chances are lower then that! But based off of the overall data from that post it's a 1 in 20,000



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2023-02-21 09:55:14
Yassss, this is all good stuff!



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2023-02-21 09:56:27
To be clear it's a 1 in 20,000 chance per each cub. And the earlier estimate with the raffle lioness is under the addumption you only enter one account every month, and have the space to house her.



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