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| Posted by | Make Raffle Lioness Tickets 1 GB Each. |
 C.J. (#102610) 
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts  Posted on 2023-07-30 22:19:45 |
Now, I know a lot of you probably gawked at the title, but hear me out! The RL raffle ticket prices should be raised to one GB. 1. The current 50 SB price feels more like an annoyance, rather than an actual fee. It might as well be a free ticket with it being so low. 2. It prevents a lot of new players from entering the raffle. At first, this might sound like a bad thing, but really it isn't. A lot of new players do not understand the value of raffle lionesses (As we saw lately with the Soul RL) and may be yelled at or bullied for changing their lioness. Not to mention, it can really stress out a new player to be bombarded with people asking to buy their lion. 3. It gives older players a chance to win. There are several people who joined in 2014-2016 who have never won an RL, despite how many times they've entered into the raffle. Now, I'm not saying that they deserve it just for joining earlier than others, but it would feel more fair to give them a better chance at winning. Older players tend to have more currency than newer players & especially with the recent boom in players, there should be more of a chance for older players to still win. 4. It balances out the economy. The game has only 1 real GB sink - The oasis. This poses a problem bc as players purchase more GB without a place for it to go, the value of GB significantly drops. The oasis essentially stops the circulation of some GB, but it's still not enough. By making there be a weekly 1 GB fee to enter into the Lioness Raffle, it creates another GB sink & raises the value of it. This is especially helpful now with the way that piebald and primal prices have plummeted, if GB goes up, the value of those lions does too. 5. It's good for the company. There will be people who constantly buy GB to enter into the raffle. This would be another way to fund the game, and compared to how much people pay to purchase RLs, their heats, or their clones, it's an extremely small price to pay. 6. It's good for those who enter. Less of the site will be able to afford purchasing a ticket, meaning that there will be a significantly higher chance to win when you do enter. Not to mention, those who are less well off will be more selective on which raffles they enter, meaning that there will be even less competition. Not to mention that if a player were to win an RL, those can easily go for 1k GB each. Meaning, you'll be reimbursed for that 1 GB about a thousand times. Not such a steep price, huh? 7. GB isn't that hard to get. Food can be accumulated through explore or hunting & even selling it to monkey business can get you a lot of SB to turn into GB quick! The game would be further rewarding players who play the game the way it was intended by offering a special raffle that they could enter. New players who are dedicated to it could still make 1 GB by the end of the week. If you have any suggestions let me know, and if you disagree i'd love to hear your thoughts! Of course, shares and upvotes are always appreciated, tysm for reading! |
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Fuego (G1 Ivory-MadNRLC) (#41825)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 03:18:17 |
I would be fine with a price increase, so support, but I think a better alternative would be requiring an account age of something like 90 days of RO. Let's be real here: most brand new players have A LOT to learn about the game. And that's okay. But, being able to win a highly coveted lion with an account less than 30 days old is frustrating on all ends. At the very least, a new account is much more likely to leave the game. At the worst, the newbie can be taken advantage of. It's true, a lot of us older accounts have never won, and as more accounts are made those chances continue to dwindle unless something changes with the current system. But there are also newer players who have spent plenty of time getting into the swing of things and are just as deserving. I just think some sort of additional effort is needed on the player's part, encouraging continued gameplay with a nice reward of impressing a RL. You don't need to have the best king or the best pride or lots of decor or tons of GB or anything like that. Or even need to RO every day. But just some time at least to get a grasp on how this game works as a whole.  3 players like this post! Like? |
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Guac (#334737)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 05:27:16 |
Nah, I'd rather not implement measures to exclude newer players from winning the RL. I don't buy the "may be yelled at or bullied for changing their lioness" spiel. A lot of older players feel entitled to winning the RL, and get pissed when a newbie wins it... End of the day it's a pixel. New or older players can do whatever they want with it. 7 players like this post! Like? |
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Allegory🥀🖤 | G5 Glass NSR (#45681)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 06:31:48 |
Lioden is firstly a community, and new and old players alike choose how to interact with it; it is a game, and is supposed to be relaxed. For many, it provides an escape from the real world - and that's great. To be quite frank, I think this whole 'omg conserve raffle lionesses they're precious' is a whole load of elephant dung. I've been on since 2014, albeit w/ hiatuses. It's a raffle. You get your shot, you win or you don't. Reducing the abilities and imposing limits on newbies and making them 'second-class' in the pecking order for a raffle lioness is just wrong, in my opinion. Anyone who wins a raffle lioness won it fair and square and she's theirs now. They can decide what to do with it. If they get a 'timer' for any feature, who says they're not going to be discouraged by the very same to quit the game? Personally, I like the influx of new people. They make the game alive. Golden Beetles are a premium currency, and while yes, we do have systems in the game to acquire them without spending actual money, it's still something unachievable in the eyes of many (or they would rather spend their SB on something else, which is completely fair). Limiting entries to a site feature that's meant to be a fun way to get something special... is just plain wrong. All that said, no support. 11 players like this post! Like? |
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harvey (#350256)
Grumpy View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 06:46:17 |
No support. Keeping it short on mobile, but it doesn't address the problem of relying on one person to spread raffle traits. It also doesn't address that the message winners are sent needs to be updated to better explain why the raffle lioness is so sought out. 2 players like this post! Like? |
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Maggs 🏳️🌈 🇵🇸 🫒 (#223105) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 07:03:25 |
I don't support this. Why make it so newbies can't enter, rather than actually punishing the people who harass them? It is THEIR lion to do with as they wish. Punish scammers and bullies, not everyone who enters. 16 players like this post! Like? |
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EinarWC (5.20.22 Damu RLC) (#180406) Confused View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 07:52:50 |
Why are we punishing the newer players when the older ones dont know how to be respectful? If you’re wanting some way to “limit” them i dont think GB is the answer since its easily obtainable. If you’re wanting to limit them then do a certain amount of times they have to roll over? But still dont understand why it matters.. we should limit the people who bother newbies who win. It’ll cut down who can join the raffle :) /j 7 players like this post! Like?Edited on 31/07/23 @ 07:54:10 by EinarWC (Damu RLC) (#180406) |
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Vixxie|#1 mane whiskered hater (#355386) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 08:00:48 |
I like the idea (in some parts), but gb is valuable at least to me. I'd rather not spend it on something I have a 0.00001 chance of winning. also getting dreamboat is hard enough for new players imo 3 players like this post! Like? |
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~Rikki_r4t~ (#65384)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 08:19:12 |
Personally, no support. As a RLC and BO enthusiast, I understand the value many people see in Raffle Lionesses, and personally value them very much myself. But a lot of the people here do have amazing points in the fact that it is a full-site inclusive thing. While I get the bummer of certain lines not spreading, or even Lionesses being completely lost because of new members loosing interest. Even with older members that is still a risk, as many older players are aging, and moving on with their lives. This game thrives off of influxes of new people, and putting restrictions on these kinds of things that is meant to include everybody is unfair. Many people in the RLC community need to realize these are pixel lions. They do not warrant mass harassment and bullying if a new player makes a "mistake" like changing a valuable base. There will be more, as there always has been. 7 players like this post! Like? |
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Fire 🔥 🇵🇸 (#35734)
Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 08:24:25 |
There is no reason at all for raffle lionesses to be less accessible. Newer players who have reached dreamboat deserve the chance just as much as older players do. I don’t care if they change the base, don’t use a crunchy, whatever. This suggestion is rather elitist. edit: I called the suggestion elitist, not any one person. This is an entirely fair criticism of the intention of the suggestion. 4 players like this post! Like?Edited on 31/07/23 @ 12:13:17 by Fire 🔥🏳️🌈 BLM (#35734) |
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🗡️ LunarKnight [Project King] (#151072) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 08:31:25 |
Actually I really like the idea of only being able to enter after rolling over so many times as previously mentioned. Just because someone makes an account doesn't mean this game is right for them or their life. I've seen folks go on hiatus not even 2 week after making their account. They might change their mind down the road so they don't close it. There's already a problem with RL ending up DOA (dead on arrival) due to landing in inactive accounts. 30 rollovers sounds more than fair. It'll give folks more than enough time to reach dreamboat and decide if they want to keep playing. Also gives them a chance to learn the ropes. You honestly can't make everyone happy but if a middle ground is drawn it might make both sides be less anxious. This is a breeding game and raffle marks are introduced by the raffle lionesses. That's a pretty big responsiblity for a new player. Especially if they don't get no warnings about exactly what they're getting into. 3 players like this post! Like? |
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Fire 🔥 🇵🇸 (#35734)
Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 08:34:00 |
I would be much more inclined to support 30 rollovers, but not a 1gb fee. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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~Rikki_r4t~ (#65384)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 10:54:49 |
Same here, a rollover count + dreamboat sounds much more fair to me, considering that is typically how long it takes most accounts to reach dreamboat w/o items anyways. But the 1 GB tickets seems very out of the question. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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C.J. (#102610)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 11:45:47 |
While I appreciate the attention this post has gotten, I'd like to remind everyone to stay respectful in their discussions! Calling me and other older players "Rude", "Entitled", or "Elitist" is quite nasty. Name calling doesn't help your argument, it only offends other players. I would like to bring up the fact that GB isn't unobtainable by any means. It's incredibly easy to get once you know how to make it (explore, c-explore, hunting, games). By learning how to make GB, you're learning more about the game & ultimately the game rewards you by offering the chance to win a special lioness! Additionally, 1GB = 50¢ I definitely agree with the idea of making there be a RO cooldown for new accounts, if this suggestion doesn't get added, I'd definitely like to see that one! 2 players like this post! Like? |
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EinarWC (5.20.22 Damu RLC) (#180406) Confused View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 12:40:02 |
The 1gb is a HUGE mark up compared to 50sb. If 1gb = 1000sb. And yes its obtainable but people dont want to spend a gb if they really only have a 1 in 10000 chance like in the picture. Thats the issue and thats why its so cheap.. If someone has reached dreamboat which normally takes a while. This event just really helps lvl people up quick. Regardless they deserve a chance at the raffle lioness. New or not. Period. People also need to remember that these lions are pixels. Who cares what they do with the lion? Sure not getting that new mark sucks but people hoard low population marks all the time with no uproar. But any time someone new uses raffle lion in a way the older users dont like they go off on that player. They won the lion fairly. Its not rigged. Theres just more new players playing compared to older ones. Thats all. Its frustrating to see how they get treated just because someone else “knows better” or “knows how to use a rl properly”. Its a sim game and i feel like people are taking it way too seriously sometimes… since mods had to go through precautions to protect winners (turning off their messages) though they should just turn of everything and inform the winner of everything they turned off. Turn off gifting and comment boxes because they are used to evade the message blocks now :( Roll over minimum would be the best way to lower the risk of a dead account getting a raffle lion. Sorry, rambled.. Oh also to add! If you look at player held raffles you’ll notice barely anyone will use gb to enter a raffle unless its the cheapest option for said raffles (ie gb or expensive items only). And you have a better chance if obtaining whatever the raffle is for since 10,000 people aren’t trying for it. Which is a another idea i think this isnt the best option. 3 players like this post! Like?Edited on 31/07/23 @ 12:51:51 by EinarWC (Damu RLC) (#180406) |
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Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 12:53:53 |
I think something does need to be done, but ultimately this might be a bit much. I really liked Lucas | G2 1.2sFerus RLC (#229229) idea. Making it so that players must have a certain seniority on the account to enter. I dont think it should be much at all though, maybe like 15 days or so. Kinda like in Wolveden how not everything is unlocked at the start. Or perhaps putting extra notes in the tutorial about how valuable these lions are, or even perhaps making it so that you simply can not kill or chase her (trading/selling/transfer all ok). Plus, I personally find that new users are more likely to buy gb than older players (at least from my experience and knwoledge), so if anything this actually enables them more. New players shouldnt be punished for being new, I think for Raffle Lionesses, the focus should be ensuring they know that this is a valuable lioness and shouldnt be destroyed or altered. Perhaps maybe it would even be good to make it so the raffle lioness cant be altered either, especially since new markings are often released on these gals. I would also like to point out, that while you may have a lot of gb, a lot of other players dont. Personally I dont thin cost should be a limit. Sometimes I have excess gb, and sometimes i dont, or sometimes i transfer all my funds to my side that i dont roll. Whatever the case, it isnt correct assuming that older players have more gb. Now, I do think it is important to preserve the raffle lionesses at least somewhat. A lot of new markings are released by these guys and rmas are... well... very luck based. If a RL is chased or killed then at that point the marking could very well be lost, but I also personally think there should be some other way to get these markings. It is quite something to rely on a marking being successful from one singular lion that only one person gets. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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