Posted by Give our Kings a Queen

Garet (#19860)

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2013-11-24 04:29:46
Since we do have one dominant male, why not have one dominant female as well? Asiatic lions have female-run prides, and within African prides, there are dominant females. It'd still be realistic, even moreso than what we have now.
I've got a few ideas that might make her useful, rather than 'just a pretty lioness we can't chase';

Our Queen would be locked to our accounts and be given her own slot. The Queen wouldn't take up a territory slot, and like our Kings, we could only have one Queen per pride. It should cost the same to retire her as it would a King, and she would not run off if too hungry or bored. Yes, you will have to play with and feed your Queen.

Like Kings, we would be able to chose an heir for her when retiring or when she comes of age. We would be able to chose to keep her looks or use those of the new Queen. Thus, we could customize her or her heir and keep that look for as long as we want to.

Unlike other females, the Queen wouldn't go hunting. She would have a different way of gaining stats. The Queen would be in charge of domestic-related issues. Teaching cubs /adolescents to hunt, fending off males/females at our borders, the likes. Each hour, we could chose to have her perform one of these duties and gain stats/exp. The former would also have a small chance of giving cubs stats, along with a slightly higher chance of giving the Queen stats. The Queen would only be able to take up to five cubs/adolescents under her wing at a time.

She would be able to breed as well, but I think a cub with a Queen should get slightly higher stats. Nothing insane like +50 in all stats, but something small, like +1-5 across the boards.

Edit: Like people have mentioned, this should be optional, like with submales. That way people wouldn't have to necessarily get one if they don't want one.



This suggestion has 1708 supports and 112 NO supports.



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Edited on 01/12/13 by Garet (#19860)

Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-04-27 07:08:52
Actually real lion prides have a dominant female, but it is kind of funny how people imdont support this because they think it’s unrealistic but like interstellar and primal. Huh.
Anyway full support I know this is old but I hope it gets added one day



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Quil (#172334)

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2019-05-21 13:33:04
Mmmmm don’t agree, in real life there is no queen, there’s just the king(or multiple males) and his breeding females.
You’d be forcing others to play your own style :/



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-21 13:40:18
It says in the thing the queen is optional. Read the paragraph



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Mochi (rolling
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2019-05-21 13:45:35
also would there be a grandma? where she stays for a year after retirement?



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di (#126735)

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2019-05-22 09:56:36
After reading all the no support "reasons" from users like Axel and Laszlo, I have to support this.

The bottom line is that OP suggested it be OPTIONAL. You do not have to have a queen if you do not want to. Just because you think something isn't a good idea, it doesn't mean everyone else does too. The support heavily outweighs the no support on here so that speaks for itself.

I'm sure if staff were to add this feature, they'd think through every loophole they can, such as unfair stat advantages and such. So that's not a very valid argument for not supporting.




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🐯Tiger Kitten🐯 (#165144)

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Posted on
2019-07-21 11:15:32
I also support. It also seems more interesting for me. I love the idea :)



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Posted on
2019-10-10 15:57:46
I def. support. It kinda gives off a Lion King vibe. Like with Mufasa and Sarabi (and other kings and queens in the series) It seems like a great idea! And people who've said ''it'D bE fOrCiNg PeOpLe To UsE yOuR sTyLe'' Tons of people said that it's optional. If you actually took the time to read some of these people's replies and comments, you'd know. And plus female lions are the heart and soul of the pride. They do much more than the male, they provide for the pride and usually males just breed and protect them, and don't do much besides that. Honestly, females run the show, so why not give the king a queen?



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sparrow (#166791)

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Posted on
2019-10-24 15:01:01
I love how people are saying no because its unrealistic. I guess they see bright pink lions out in the real world all the time? xD



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Sharturnet46 (#200051)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 21:38:00
Support :)



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Magnituda [sunrise
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2020-06-16 19:40:48
It doesn't matter if it's realistic or not. Something like this would break the game so it'll never be accepted. I'm not talking about "the queen slot" but about a female lion with all advantages kings have.



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Edited on 16/06/20 @ 19:41:30 by Magnituda (#198042)

Void (They/Them
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Posted on
2020-07-20 08:11:14
100% Support! This would work perfectly with this suggestion vvv

https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=222477980010


This would be perfect for my Prides, as they are based around Artemis'/Diana's Hunters. (An elite group of Immortal female warriors) Both of these groups have a lieutenant or second in command of sorts, and the Queen slot would fit wonderfully.



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Void (They/Them
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Posted on
2020-07-20 08:22:21
@Magnituda

The Queens wouldnt have any of the advantages kings have. They cant explore, challenge other players for territory, participate in events, or be able to stud. The only real similarity is the retiring system and slot usage. Even then, its ONE territory spot. The Queen would have her own job(s) and having a Queen would add an extra element to the game. Especially if this was a way to train cubs/adolescents.

-Perhaps they could have reverse breeding disabled/not be allowed to be sent to a stud for our Queen. In real lion prides I doubt the King would want his Queen "visiting" other Kings.

*** This could also change the Journey to Vredefort Crater, as your Queen could stay to protect the pride instead of a sub-male, I could get if that was to much though.***



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Magnituda [sunrise
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2020-07-20 08:26:29
But they would. This suggestion is about female lion who would be able to be mutie or stat replaced + give cubs more stats by playing with them or sth. So if you could have male AND female with looks you want for limiitless amount of time AND mutie/stat replaced if you wish - that are massive advantages and that would break a game. Breeding would become basically pointless. You can have queen without it being official. Just name her that.



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Edited on 20/07/20 @ 08:27:23 by Magnituda (#198042)

Void (They/Them
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Posted on
2020-07-20 08:45:10
As I stated, the Queen could possibly only be bred inside your pride/to your KIng, which would limit the breeding potential drastically. Another possibility if you are so worried about the looks staying the same would be you can only keep her looks for 2 retirements? I dont think her looks would be that big of an issue seeing that our Kings can keep their looks and not break the game. If they added this in game there would obviously be some limitations.

The cub stats is basically the same as cub training and shouldnt hurt the game at all. It could be a replacement/addition to the adolescent training system we have now. (look at the suggestion I linked for a simple explanation)

I dont think the mutie/stat rep would be a huge deal, as they cannot mass breed to lionesses to pass their mut or stat. They would still have the 20 day breeding cooldown, and would be bred (sort of) like a normal lioness. They would basically be a lioness with special jobs, like a broodmother/huntress. As stated by many, this would be optional, and you would not start with a Queen. Maybe there could be a 10 GB fee to open a Queen slot?

She wouldn't be just a regular lioness though, she would have jobs and abilities beyond the regular. Naming a lioness "Queen" works for now, but there could be so much more there. We could actually get to use our Queen for something important, and get a connection to her looks and have her be a big part of our prides. A regular lioness dies and is gone forever, but a Queen would be a permanent fixture in our pride.



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Edited on 20/07/20 @ 08:49:36 by 💜A Bi Mess' Side💜 (#198138)

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Posted on
2020-07-20 08:54:28
Suggestions-

Maybe there could be a 10 GB fee to open a Queen slot?

Queen could possibly only be bred to your King (so no Studding/Reverse Breeding)

For the Journey to Vredefort Crater, your Queen could stay to protect the pride instead of a sub-male.




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