I’m not exactly how old this post is.. I found it while searching up “Can LMs survive?” I have a suggestion that, could there perhaps be a plant to help increase the chance of survival? I’m not saying Iike feed your lions herbs till they’re safe from dying, more like feed them herbs to help minimize the chances of death? For example: If your cub is born with extra limbs, but their survival chance is at 40%, you could boost it up to maybe 50-60%? I’m uncertain if this’ll get added at all, but I most certainly do love the idea. It would be absolutely heartbreaking every time your cub was born with a lethal mutation, they would always die at some point. Like, we gotta have some survivors right? Now let’s not defeat the point of lethal mutations here.. lethal mutations can probably still kill your cub at 5 months, but then after that it’ll be smooth (sort of) sailing from there with a herb?

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I've been thinking the same thing. I get that it's very unlikely to show up even if they add it, but it'll give mutation breeders like me something to work towards. It honestly does make it more realistic because the "lethal" mutations do not have a 100% death rate.
I think, like deaf lions, they should have the chance to make it to adulthood, yet still only live a short lifespan. Not all lethal mutations, mind you. Some have a pretty much 100% death rate. But I can see some of them surviving past cubhood, although I don't know about the quality of their life.

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I feel like it'd be more realistic when coming to expectations of the artists to only request some lethals being able to grow.

Cleft palete - Survivability is low, but i feel like if the mother's hunger is low and happiness high, she might spend more time trying to feed the baby.

Conjoined twins - I'd say probably no. Considering they're joined by the hip/abdomen, it'd be very easy for infection and problems passing excretion.

Cyclopia - No. It has no nose, and with an eye that big, probably a lack of brain too. There's no way it'd survive, even IN captivity, let alone in the wild.

Extra limbs - Survivability is low, but i feel like if the mothers hunger is low and happiness high, she might spend more time trying to get the cub moving. We have several examples of cats whom have parapalegia who drag their legs, and still live healthy lives. It'd be similar with extra limbs, especially like the cub we see, since it's only its hind legs.

Harlequin ichtyosis - No. Even humans born with this condition rarely grow to adulthood, even with modern medicine. No way a lion in the wild will.

Lipomatosis - Maybe. Very weak maybe. Considering that the tumours grow, the chance of the cub surviving is slim to none. But, in the lioden world, we have some pretty smart monkeys. A crude surgery may be able to reduce the tumours a bit, letting it live longer. Not into adulthood, but maybe adol years.

Sirenomelia - It could survive. It's all up to how the intestines do while growing. It's stated at 1 month that it can poop just fine, but later on, some difficulties with its digestions lead to it's death. So, in all honesty, it would be up to random chance.

Two heads - A big maybe. Considering we have an actual two-headed cat in real life who's lived for more then 15 years. They say it's likely because there was only one brain and only one of related organs like the esophagus. It's but rare that they survive.

Most felines in the real world would kill their disfigured offspring. This is lioden though, so i don't think we can put that into account unless it's an evil lioness.

In conclusion, there are some that have survivability, even when accounting real-life happenings of said mutations.

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no lethals can survive to adulthood. No support. Lethals have deformities that prevent them from hunting and moving with the pride. The pride wont just take care of them if they clearly are clearly gonna be a burden that wont be able to help them hunt.

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100% support, I could see harlequin Ichyosis cubs having a sort of "defense" boost, since their skin is... Well, covered in diamond-like scales. Plus I think it'd be the absolute easiest to make grow up with specific lineart changes. Since, well, every lion with the mut looks the same despite their different genetics. Sirenomelia cubs were just fine in terms of bowel movements in 1 month, so that could survive...? I could see a rare variation of the 'cyclopia' Mutation that, well, has a nose and working face ( except... Well, one big eye. ) I would love to see a conjoined cub survive to adulthood, and I think some mutations would.... Well, still be lethal. ( Looking at y'all F.O.P, Tray Sachs syndrome, and progeria )

Welp, this was just me rambling on about things I think would happen.

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Harlequin itchyosis wouldnt survive. They have super thin skin that cracks and sufficates them. Even humans cant survivie it.

Sirens coudlnt survivie either. They have merged and deformed organs, plus they cant walk.

Cyclopia cant survivie either considering their deformity as well. The big eye likely causes serious deformities to the brain.

Plus if they are to make adults of each of them, they have to recreate every single marking, base etc. Better to spend tht time on other mutations that make sense.

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Regarding Ichthyosis- lions with no healthcare cannot survive this. It isn't just plated skin. Ears & nose may be underdeveloped/missing, eyelids may be deformed leaving the eyes extremely susceptible to infection, joints are likely underdeveloped & lack mobility, digits may be underdeveloped. The skin is prone to cracking and bleeding even during birth, and would absolutely not provide any extra defensive value. It also results in a lower ability to regulate body temperature and retain water, which would be deadly during hot savannah dry seasons. And on top of that the thickened skin restricts breathing and sometimes results in respiratory failure.

"The disorder was nearly always fatal, whether due to dehydration, infection (sepsis), restricted breathing due to the plating, or other related causes. The most common cause of death was systemic infection, and sufferers rarely survived for more than a few days."

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Welp, at least the ichy cub could easily be made adol and adult versions -- like, a ichy cub looks the same to another, this means they would all look the same and it's almost as easy.

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How would a dead lion grow into an adol/adult...?

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Hypotheticallly, if they lived and grew up.

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I still would like an item that allows lethal muts to grow into adulthood and such.

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support! there is always that "one lethal baby" in real life that does have a much extended lifespan. it would be cool for them to have a low chance of living past the max life :0

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I definitely don't support an item. Plus we already have Safou Fruit in monkey business which removes Mutations so that your lion can live.

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Safou fruit just removed the mut, this item could let the mutie have a chance of survival.

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Still don't support that. An item is 1, far to easy, and 2 it doesn't make sense as a lot of comments stated above

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