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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2017-01-04 06:22:22

The Third Lioden Hybrid - The Jaglion



What is a Jaglion?

A jaglion is the unlikely offspring produced from a male jaguar and a lioness. While seemingly bizarre and outlandish to many, jaglions are actually among one of the more recent hybrids to be successfully produced. Although they are bred less often (thankfully) than ligers and liligers, there are two jaglions, Tsunami and Jazhara, who were born at Bear Creek Sanctuary in 2006. The two are still alive to this day, although their parents have since been separated to prevent more accidental jaglions. The two creatures seem to be healthy, and sport a very unique appearance in comparison to leopons.

While I do wish to show you a side-by-side comparison of a jaglion vs a leopon in terms of appearance, the images on Bear Creek have been copyrighted, and they have stressed their desire for their images not to be reposted. Instead, I will provide links to Bear Creak Sanctuary's jaglion page, as well as the link to the leopon wikipedia article.


http://www.bearcreeksanctuary.com/jaglions.htm -
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THESE PEOPLE DO NOT GENUINELY CARE FOR THESE ANIMALS, AND ARE NOT A TRUE SANCTUARY. DO NOT PLAN VISITS TO THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M USING THEM AS AN EXAMPLE OF JAGLIONS.***

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopon

How would they occur in Lioden?

A good, valid question! After all, jaguars live in South America, not Africa. However, you know what other impossible hybrid is coming to Lioden in 2018? The tigon.

Tigers are known to roam Asia, and while a certain subspecies of lion, the Asiatic lion, also roams Asia, the two lack overlapping ranges. Alongside that, it is heavily hinted at that Lioden takes place in Africa proper, and not in Asia, judging by its flora and fauna. However, we still get tigons. This is because, at least from what I've heard, that a tiger escaped from a zoo, or was perhaps an exotic pet that broke loose. While such occurrences are unlikely, it is still going to be apart of Lioden's lore. Such a scenario could easily be the same case as the jaglion's jaguar father.

A jaguar escapes from an African zoo and takes shelter in the jungle. Not too unlikely, given how poor the humans in this game seem to be at keeping animals where they should.


UPDATE!
A jaguar encounter was added in the December of 2017! This male jaguar is in search of a lioness to protect him. Maybe that lioness will do a little more than just protect him...




Fun Jaglion Facts!
1. Male jaglions don't have a mane. At most, they have a little bit more fluff on their chests.
2. Jaglions can be melanistic if their jaguar father is.
3. Jaglions are smaller than their mothers, but larger than their fathers.


*** More Info on Bear Creek

Bear Creek allows visitors to handle cubs, which is both stressful and unhealthy for the cubs. These cubs are taken away from their mothers before they are weaned to be bottle-fed by visitors and staff while they are still "cute". Once these cubs grow up, they are often left in awful conditions. Along with that, their production of the Jaglions shows how careless they are towards conserving wildlife. Hybrids serve no conservation purposes. Cub handling is cruel. Do not support Bear Creek, and please, don't take this suggestion as me advocating for them.



This suggestion has 3790 supports and 116 NO supports.



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Edited on 26/02/23 @ 12:02:55 by LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)

OceWolf {Main} (#108848)

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Posted on
2018-05-23 17:41:25
Oml I love this idea!! Definitely supporting 100 percent!!



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-06-02 10:58:09
If this reaches 1000 supports I'll scream oh my gods.

I know the devs are busy as hell with other stuff so the Jaglion won't get added any time soon, but now there's almost no reason NOT to add it at some point! ;0;



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-06-02 19:50:23
We reached 1000 supports! I'm honestly so happy that the community has shown so much support for this, thank you guys!



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ɴᴏʀᴛʜᴇʀɴ (#74490)


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2018-06-05 10:52:12
That sanctuary is located like half an hour away from where I live and I've never heard of it before.. odd.

Anyways, I love hybrids so I'm on board with this one regardless of how realistic it is (nothing in this game really is anymore). I think for colouration, to avoid it looking like a typical Leopon we could take inspiration from Jazhara's colours and make a dark base with the sort of cream-gold undertones that it looks like she's got? With a different sort of rosette and a heavier build.



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Finch Face (#131981)

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2018-06-13 21:56:15
I wish I could see the pictures, but if the reason I can't is because the place closed down and the animals went to better homes, I can't be sorry. Here's hoping.
I love the idea of another hybrid. I've wanted to adopt that jaguar ever since I saw him in explore, so this would be a nice compromise.



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-06-15 14:20:46
I'll be working on updated base mock-ups! Thank you guys so much for your current amount of support towards this thread.



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-06-15 14:45:19
The revised base has been added! Give me your opinions - Do you like the original base or the new base better?



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2018-06-22 10:47:31
I was about to hit no support on this because I couldn't think of a way to justify jaguars in Africa without it getting super convoluted, but it turns out that Lioden already gave us the means of this being a possibility. I forgot about homeboy's encounter!

However, if this gets implemented, I feel like it should be even rarer than leopons. I'm talking crazy rare when occurring naturally in a litter like Leopons and not bred from another. The reason being that we only know of ONE jaguar in Lioden's lore. I know that male felines tend to get around like crazy, but one jaguar would have a LOT of business to get into on his own to produce even an amount rarer than leopons.

Though I still feel like breeding an existing jaglion to get another should be a huge pain in the ass to get one, to help preserve how rare they should rightfully be. Would defeat the entire point of being crazy rare if a few people could breed them and they become pretty easily accessible so long as you've got dosh.

It can be argued that "zoos would have them and they could escape", but I just feel like we should use the evidence already blatantly given to us instead of hypotheticals, haha.

I still have no idea how tigons are happening OTHER THAN that excuse, though. Wew.

Either way, full support even though realistically if this was added, it probably wouldn't be for potentially years.



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Edited on 22/06/18 @ 10:54:46 by -:[ ᴠɪɴᴄᴇɴᴛ ]:- (#108458)

Lilllith (#87012)

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2018-07-03 17:39:55
I support but I think the base should be darker, like Jazhara’s.



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gaz (#122919)

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2018-07-03 20:00:05
support!! congrats on 1k!! honestly, i wonder where the mods are at with tigons, since we're well into 2018 yknow



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-07-03 20:01:34
Tigons are projected to release between now and September according to Xylax ^^ Thank you for the support!



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gaz (#122919)

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2018-07-03 20:04:05
np!!! tbh props to you for providing a lot of detail and explanation in your suggestion especially since its a really big idea! you deserve the supports!



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Posted on
2018-07-09 13:59:10
what do you think of these bases for your suggestion post? click



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2018-07-09 14:03:14
They look nice, but I prefer the mock-ups I've made at the moment. Staff can decide between which of the bases they wanna draw inspiration from though!



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2018-07-09 14:06:55
OK! ...oh, maybe the jaglion could be born in any those 3 bases?



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