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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-09-16 19:28:21
That is a great resource.



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Posted on
2018-09-16 19:38:33
That's helpful! ^^



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Chrysurus (#84208)

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Posted on
2018-09-21 11:48:34
Question:
And maybe I just missed something and this is more of a clarification.. x.x

But let's say you have a Combo Base x Non-Combo Base , with the combo base being 'special'...

There would be no chance of producing an offspring with the 'special' combo base considering it would have to be a certain combination.. however, would the fact that it is a 'special' base boost the chances of the offspring having a 'special' non-combo base?



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2018-09-21 11:53:56
If that particular combo base is special - that is, has anything but "common" as rarity - then yep, their offspring could have one of the uncommon or rare bases! It all depends on which combo base it is, and the genetics of the other parent. Generally, the more different genetics they have - different shade, gradient and even color group - the more options a cub has to roll :)



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2018-09-21 12:00:34
To get gilded from a gilded stud. can I use any base lioness? or only a seth, bast, anubis lioness? or one with similar genetics?



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Chrysurus (#84208)

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2018-09-21 12:12:11
Okay, thanks! One more clarification then -

Let's say you have a Madagascar (Combo Special) x Sunset (Breed Special)

This would still give the boosted chance of getting an offspring with Sunset, right? Even if Madagascar can't actually be passed?



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Posted on
2018-09-21 12:29:20
Madagascar can be passed like that, and there's no upped chance of sunset

You can't get gilded from any base, just bast/Anubis/Seth/gilded



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Edited on 21/09/18 @ 12:29:56 by dictisaurus ♥️ (#119041)

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2018-10-13 03:02:56
Updated to add the new Temporal base!



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Ash [G2 Clean Helle] (#127233)

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2018-10-13 05:35:55
Well, Temporals are going to be even harder than Pulsar- for one, because we only have half of the month left.



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2018-10-13 05:40:11
Remember that Pulsar needs Arctic base - which, as far as I know, wasn't a very popular one before Pulsar was a thing, and whose applicator is obtained during December. At least Temporal is made up from an applicator base that belongs to its month of popping up as a combo and the other two bases needed are fairly popular.



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Ash [G2 Clean Helle] (#127233)

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Posted on
2018-10-13 05:45:07
True, true.
But then again, Pulsar didn't necessarily require two Special parents; you had the option for Special (Arctic) x Rare (Anjeer or Prune, which are decently popular.)

Everything's special for Temporal.

I'm going to fite u on this, B e r e.



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Edited on 13/10/18 @ 05:46:56 by Ash {LIGHTS OFF} (#127233)

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Posted on
2018-10-13 05:46:14
Bast comes from an applicable base, which is always easier to get than a breed only base



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Ash [G2 Clean Helle] (#127233)

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2018-10-13 05:50:44
Royal Coats O Bast are suddenly going for 15 GB and up.
And, last time I checked, Sunsets weren't the easiest thing to obtain, either.



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2018-10-13 06:52:04
Uh, you may have caught me there



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Posted on
2018-10-17 04:01:48
Question! So i kno you need to breed during the wet season for Cloudburst but does the mother also have to give birth during the wet season?



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