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| Posted by | [Aug] make the event studs personalized |
 Phantom StarsX (#92256) Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts  Posted on 2018-08-16 20:42:40 |
Honestly for as long as I can remember the event studs are a mad scramble for people worrying about unlocking them- so here's what i propose. I know that personalized bars are a little iffy depending who you talk to but hear me out on this one, cause there's a few ways to do it. Now the event studs are the maneaters who show up after X amount of humans are killed so wouldn't it make sense they'd visit individual territories based on how many humans you killed? So here's my ideas on how this could work. X amount of humans killed over several days This would have a personalized bar that carried over day to day, like after say... for a random example 300 humans killed, the studs would be open for you for the rest of the event, maybe have a cycle of studs it's goes through, or random appearance of which one showed up, changing on rollover. X amount of humans.. per rollover Let's say you have to kill 40 humans a day to unlock the maneaters, however it closes/resets on rollover. X amount of humans, resetting stud For this idea, let's say the number is 100 humans or something. You can take your time filling up the bar, it carries over day to day, however once you unlock the Maneater, he'll be around for 2-3 rollovers (or the studs randomize during this time) then the bar resets and you'd have to re unlock it. The reason I think the maneaters should be personalized is cause Some people don't concern themselves with them cause they want the DB encounters instead, or karma, so having to factor in people who don't care for them makes them taxing to unlock. This would make it easier for people who really want them to be able to get them. Also this kinda opens up some new possibilities. like if they add randomized studs, there could be a rare one that might show up, or more special, etc. So what do you guys think? Comments, critiques, and questions welcome. |
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Phantom StarsX (#92256)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:02:58 |
Yeah, 2 types of studs would solve the problem I just don't know if the admins would even consider doing that based on what I seen. The problem is the Maneaters are considered a bonus area, and that means that if it don't get unlocked, the admins might not do anything about it. Almost every event has some sort of "pick and choose" and I wouldn't see how it's fair if one year the event studs don't get unlocked and everyone who was trying their hardest didn't get the event studs because other people didn't want to mess up their karma. Or even how long people who want the studs have to wait to get them. That's what I'm worried about.  0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 16/08/18 @ 22:07:42 by Phantom StarsX (#92256) |
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Dinocanid (#69182)
Prince of Terror View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:04:40 |
That's what I meant with it being the same situation xD People could swap cubs for the markings/base/manes they want, like they do now with items from the shops. The studs section may be a bonus, but I wish/hope the staff treats it as a main feature. When things like savage/diabolic mane were introduced, I would've hated to miss the mark on that. It remains my favorite mane type to this day (I literally won't use anything else on my king willingly, lol). I'd hate for one year where we don't unlock it...and then also fail to unlock it the next year. It would suck in the same way the destroyers was open for 2 years in a row or the preservers were open 2 years in a row. Half the playerbase gets locked out of their shop based on the actions of the other half. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 16/08/18 @ 22:13:42 by Dinocanid (#69182) |
Kimiko Kyuuketsuki (#32476)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:07:22 |
Everyone has the right to play how they want and not be pressured, but every year the same thing happens " you have to be bad because we want it unlocked" that is why the two kinds of studs opened two ways is a good idea. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Phantom StarsX (#92256)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:12:00 |
"You have to be bad cause we want it unlocked" is the way it is now and for a lot of the month. Like I said, ALOT of people already feel like they have to sacrifice karma just to get the bar unlocked. If you had to be bad for a few days versus the whole month which would you prefer? I ain't saying two studs is a bad idea, I just don't see it happening. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 16/08/18 @ 22:15:03 by Phantom StarsX (#92256) |
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Dinocanid (#69182)
Prince of Terror View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:20:30 |
Pipe dreams, lol. Maybe someday in a perfect world we'll see 2 event studs. Realistically though, it's less of a stretch to adjust how it currently operates without adding something new and exclusive. "You have to be evil because we want it unlocked", maybe be pressuring and unfair to good players, but "I have a good king so tough luck" is equally as unfair. (not your words, but the basics of the current situation) Basically the event studs are running on half of the manpower (lionpower?) to unlock, so it takes twice as long and is why it usually remains locked until the last few days of the month. 2 studs may be an unrealistic expectation right now, permanently lowering the requirement would also solve our problems. Only half the playerbase is helping to unlock it, so cut the requirement in half. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Kimiko Kyuuketsuki (#32476)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:21:24 |
If you had to be bad for a few days versus the whole month which would you prefer? neither. Users should not HAVE to be bad for any reason. Do you see my point? Using your original idea would make it go from users pressuring other users, which is bad enough, to the game pressuring users. Saying you HAVE to be bad or you don't get to partake in exclusive studs at all. Only evil lions get studs, too bad. It is different than items or something that can actually be traded by those that have different game styles. It would be rewarding one play style and punishing another which is unacceptable. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Phantom StarsX (#92256)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:27:05 |
In the past I've actually done suggestions for lowering the event studs but it got ignored for the most part by admins so yeah. Oh well, maybe some year NO ONE will get them cause too many people didn't want to unlock them by being bad. Dinocanid is right, half the site (more or less) is working to unlock something for everyone. And that ain't fair at all. Work for it to get them? That's fair even if you have to go against karma it'd only be for the human encounters. rn however since there's the exclusive shops and evil points tend to outweigh good, Good users trying to help are also kinda screwed on their shop even just picking human encounters to do bad cause this bar takes almost all month to unlock. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Kimiko Kyuuketsuki (#32476)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 22:31:30 |
I agree that something needs to be done and it is not 'fair' the way it is set up but maybe another suggestion would be a better fit? Like the two stud types idea or something? I really don't think Lioden would ever reward one play style and punish another but I also think something should change to make this event more 'fair' 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Shozurei (#49512)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-16 23:47:49 |
This event needs a total overhaul. I have 2 kings - one good and one bad, and both are working hard to get those studs open. But I had a player straight up tell me that they want the event studs open but they aren't going to kill any humans themselves because they don't want to hurt their karma. That is simply unfair. I honestly don't care if it's a personalized bar or 2 studs. Something just needs to change. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Phantom StarsX (#92256)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-17 12:09:52 |
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TacticianLyra|Clean Demiurge (#112980) King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-18 07:53:33 |
If the fact that killing humans didn't come with a karma hit, I'd support it. Unfortunately, it does. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Msasi (#21461)
True King View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-18 16:04:07 |
I think offering event encounters that give "humans killed" to help unlock the bars but that result in good/neutral karma would help a lot towards the event, whether there are personalized stud bars or multiple studs or not. That way everyone can contribute towards unlocking the bar (whether it be a community bar or a personal bar) and not feel like they HAVE to do something they don't want to just to unlock something, but doesn't take away from some of the karma focus of this event. For example, an encounter that has poachers taking advantage of the drought to attack animals could result in humans killed and give good karma because your lion is defending other animals. Or an encounter with humans digging a well too close to a pridal den could result in humans killed but give no karma (thus being a neutral option) because your lion isn't actively seeking out humans to attack, but has to protect areas the pride hangs out at often. Stuff like that. :o With multiple encounter options to fill the humans killed bar that offer different karma options, then it just becomes like other events with karma stuff, where you either read the wiki in advance to know what encounters result in what options or spend the first few days of the event learning through trial and error so you know what encounters to focus on to help fill that specific bar but get you the karma option you prefer. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Phantom StarsX (#92256)
Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-08-18 16:15:47 |
If they want to add neutral and good options, I'm good with that but honestly hearing people talking about "I don't want it personalized cause i don't want to hurt my karma" means "let other people unlock it for me" is a very disturbing attitude to me.  I feel like it proves my point as to why it should be personalized, you want something, work for it, or pick and choose  0 players like this post! Like? |
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