Posted by Adult Sex Changer Adjustment [1,000+ Supports!]

{Shamhna} 🎃 [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-05 23:40:32

Small Adult Sex Changer AdjustmentPlease dont be just Cynics & Critics, be Helpful! 😅

While I have looked into similar post on the matter, I didn't really find anything that is like what I'd be suggesting. If there is a post that is similar, do let me know so that I can make the decision to delete this or attempt to keep it up.
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Welcome To My Seminar!
So as we all know the Sex Changers seem pretty simple and easy to use, but there is one thing that bugs me about one of them. Before we get into that let's review these two particular items:
Cub Sex Changer - Use this item on a cub or adolescent between 0 to 23 months of age to change its sex. If the cub or adolescent has a sex-specific mutation, it will be permanently wiped.

Adult Sex Changer - Use this item on an adult lion between 24-36 months of age to change its sex. Must not have bred, hunted, or patrolled. Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.


I'm sure that this is aggravating to someone of you as well, let's review the last sentence of the Adult Sex Changer: Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.

Read it again minus one thing: Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.
Why all Mutations? Why not just restrict the gender specific ones like Smilus or Mane Mutations? Why must all Mutations be restricted to only being Sex Change-able at 0 months to 1 year, 11 months?

What Am I Suggesting?
My Suggestion is to allow the Sex Changing of the non gender specific mutations to be like any other lion, at 2-3 years old with the same rules stated in the items description.
Example Text:
Adult Sex Changer - Use this item on an adult lion between 24-36 months (2-3 years) of age to change its sex. This includes any nonsex-specific mutations. Must not have bred, hunted, or patrolled. Lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.

This would be a relatively small change to allow Mutations that affect both genders like Achromia, Blind, Bobbed Tail, Clawless, Dwarfism, Eyeless, Felis, Folded Ears, Melanism, Primal, Polycaudal, Tailless, Toothless, Overgrown Claws, Overgrown Teeth as well as all Piebalds and Patches to be Sex Changed at 0 months and up to 3 years of age as long as that lion has not been bred, hunted, or patrolled at any time. Sex-specific mutations would not be able to have their sex changed with this adjustment.

Why Am I Making This Suggestion?
Because I often have real life things to attend to and I often forget when mutated lions can be sex changed. I've had to sale/kill/chase/nature preserve very beautiful males that I wanted to keep and change to female but couldn't because of real life and by the time I get the chance/GB to sex change them - it's too late. I'm saying this because I know that someone is bound to say "Just change them when they are Cubs like I do."
Well, there's a problem or two with that. One problem with that statement is that some users my not have that 1 GB to buy the Sex Changer and it takes time to obtain just 1 GB, especially for new users who are still learning the ropes.
Problem Two, real life gets crazy! People have families, kids, pets, jobs that are more of a priority then a game. This means that is very easy to forget teeny tiny details like that which can result in reluctantly getting rid of a Mutie that is no longer of age to be sex changed or to have it just sit and wither away in a users den. I myself have this gorgeous boy that I wanted to sex change and keep, now he'll just wither away as I don't have a use for him and I love him too much to get rid of him. Well, what happened? Real life, my family's small house has a total of six people (including my daughter and I) plus three loving cats living under the same roof. This means that I often get too busy to sit and remember absolutely everything that I need to do on the game. I'm certain that others have just as, if not even more so of a busy life than I do.

Conclusion
I bet that this seems like a very simple suggestion, but I understand that it's easier said than done. It will take time and consideration to see if it is possible to make this adjustment. But just imagine the possibilities! Everyone would have more time to sex change the pretty lions that they adore and wish to keep at all costs! Imagine being able to sex change your beautiful lions at 3 years old rather than the short time span of 1 year, 11 months old! No more lions wasting away due to short sex changing age restrictions! 🎉🎉
Go click that Support button and Lioden a much cooler place!


🙆‍♀️ Thank you to all who stopped by to check this out and to those that know the struggle and clicked "Support"!

🙅‍♀️ If you do not support this idea then please explain why and toss in some helpful info that could help make this possible. Please don't just hate the idea because you personally don't like it or personally don't see a use for it as others could greatly benefit from this.

👁 Do you have a sharp eye and see something that should be added or changed? Let me know! I'll toss your added idea/suggestion right here on the main post for all to see!

🎆 Thank you and good night! 🎆




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• cyn·i·cal (adjective) 2. concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted or appropriate standards in order to achieve them.
• cyn·ic (noun) 1. a person who believes that people are motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honorable or unselfish reasons.

• crit·i·cal (adjective) 1. expressing adverse or disapproving comments or judgments.
• crit·ic (noun) 1. a person who expresses an unfavorable opinion of something.

• help·ful (adjective) giving or ready to give help.
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Edited on 28/04/23 @ 03:05:15 by {Shamhna, T.P.Q}🎃[M] (#5131)

{Shamhna} 🎃 [S] (#9102)

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Posted on
2020-03-24 00:42:55
Snom [Clean G2 Heavy] (#167492) - I dont think that value if the mutation matters. It's a matter if someone wants those kinds of Mutations in the opposite gender (excluding Maneless), maybe someone would love to have an OG Teeth/Claws lioness or King. Maybe one person wants a Male OG Teeth/Claws as a submale/king but can only find the perfect one as Female or vise versa. So for some, it would be worth it. Some love those Mutations and would probably love to have one as a King or pride member if they could find the perfect one to sex change to suite their needs.

And as timbergray has stated before, most mutations are only put up for sale when they are adults. So by then, it's already too late to sex change them. Especially if it's an AMP whos mutation only shows when its an adult. So, yes while that is easy to check, it becomes invalid if that Lion can not be sex changed.

And you do kinda have to RO/be active to gain funds in order to save up SB to trade for GB to buy a Sex Changer or to try to sell things in order to get GB. Not everyone can just go buy them with a debit card, a lot of us have to struggle just to get a few GB.



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aloiria [2.2K g1
uneven] (#168423)

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Posted on
2020-03-24 16:21:52
Support from me.

It’s silly how they work. 0 reason why this shouldn’t be added.



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timbergray (#180986)

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Posted on
2020-03-24 22:44:38
@ Snom [Clean G2Heavy] (#167492) - you're kind of once again completely ignoring the people who want to buy lions when the lions are not being sold until after they turn 2 years old. As a buyer, I'm not going to try hunting down every cub in the game that isn't for sale (is there even a way to do that?), check it for mutations I want, and then contact the owner who has not expressed any interest so far in selling said cub, and ask them to let me buy it just so I can then proceed to use an item. Item cost isn't a factor if the lion is not even available until you can't use said item. And spamming random users with requests to buy lions they are not selling might go against a few site rules. (minimum of CoC 1.4, possibly CoC 1.5, maybe more).

The example of the AMP being OG Teeth/claws was an example of a breeder who was not selling cubs, but waiting until the lion grew into an adult before selling, to see if the AMP was one they wanted. Because waiting was clearly easier or more profitable for them than checking every cub before deciding if they wanted to sell. That means someone buying a lion that had been held similarly would not have a chance to sex change the lion at all, because they didn't even get a chance to own the lion until that option had already been unintentionally blocked by someone else . Namely, the owner at the time who didn't offer the lion for sale until after the time to change it was past. ( I'm assuming no breeder is out there intentionally holding lions until adulthood to sell for the sole purpose of not letting other players sex-change them, so no ill will to any breeder out there waiting to sell! Your lion, your choice. :) ) If the breeder didn't care about the gender, but the buyer did, or the breeder assumed a female would sell better when a buyer was looking for an heir, the buyer still didn't have the option by the time the breeder sold it. And that has nothing to do with the buyer's funds or activity so can't be solved by saving up or not rolling over.

If a breeder doesn't sell cubs, the buyer doesn't get a chance to sex change cubs.

So, do you have any reason to not support a buyer's ability to sex change a young adult mutated lion that they were not able to own until after 2 years old?



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Datrandomcat (#166891)

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2020-03-24 23:49:12
While this isn’t much of a problem to me,since I am not there yet to properly trade/sell/buy muties,I don’t see the reason why it wouldn’t be allowed,other than what my guess is that it would be too tedious for the developers to code,and don’t want to use a different method when what is currently works as a soloution to what was the original problem of males w female mutations.
But from the players pov,I don’t see anything why this wouldn’t be supported and probably would save some people less fussing.



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Siopao♥|G2
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2020-03-25 12:55:06
I honestly believe this is a great idea! As long as the sex specific genders aren't allowed to change, it's a win! And to bring up an opposing side to some other's views, some people who buy muties off the market may not be able to change the gender of the desired mutie in time before it's too late. I think it's only fair to give people that opportunity again --as long as it isn't a trouble to the developers of Lioden-- and hopefully this time exploits can be avoided!

Good suggestion! You've my support



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Edited on 25/03/20 @ 12:55:46 by Siopao♥ (Pork Bun) (#149453)

DuchessD037 (#193293)

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Posted on
2020-03-27 11:21:41
I'm confused. Can't you already sex change muties?



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💙C'est la vie💙 (#29645)

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2020-03-27 11:30:27
@Kitan, no. Adult muties cannot be sex changed



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DuchessD037 (#193293)

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2020-03-27 20:54:25
Oh, ok well then you have my support.



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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2020-03-28 02:34:10
"But male amp cubs mutations are not as valuable them being OG claws, teeth or maneless. Its usually not worth it to sex change them if they're male."

You may have misunderstood what I meant.

I almost never sell lions. Like, at all. I'm keeping the rare female AMPs because it's impossible to say whether you have a mane mutation or an OG mutation without blowing 2GB to sex change your lion twice. And doing that just to see you have a 2GB mutation on your hands isn't cost effective.

So, of course, most of them are not OG mutations, meaning that once I do get rid of them, they generally don't sell. And if they do, they sell for less than unmutated male adults. Due to the specific lions I do sell being semi-valuable at least.

If a person could still sex change that 1k, clean, female, mane fluffy, they might actually buy it from me!



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Dande[G2 Tovero] (#143622)


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2020-03-29 19:44:41
Yes. Yes. Yes



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Posted on
2020-03-31 11:08:56
Supporting^ has been something that's on my mind as well!



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Remmy (#118034)

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2020-04-10 20:08:14
love this song



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Frost (G2 Bisected
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Posted on
2020-04-12 19:58:54
On the topic of mutie sex-changing, it rly will be good to be able to do so between 2 to 3 years of age for any non-sex specific mutie. It really would be cute to still sex-change a 2-3 yr old polycaudal or a melanism to become a fun mutie replacer for aesthetic purposes. Or be able to sex-change that one fav 2-3 yr old mutie that u bought that is sadly a male to become a useful female that u can lionball the hell out of.

About y’all talking about AMPs, it’s not rly just the AMPs that matter, after all most keep their AMPs to themselves, it’s stuff like Primal variants and Piebald/ Patches variants too.

AMPs are mostly for show, and most ppl buy AMPs to flex the looks. Not rly for the awesome stats if they came with it, I see the awesome high stats as a bonus to produce higher-started cubs in the future.
But I’ll be honest here, if the AMP in question is male, it’s actually avoidable for a goof-up to happen, especially when the male adol AMP isn’t maneless. For me, once the male adol isn’t maneless, I sex-change him upon buying him.

But well, like some say, if you had bought an AMP only after they have aged up especially when that is a male, then it’s a bummer. In this case, I’ll suggest that we have the suggest rule above implemented so that we can still keep the mutie useful should we plan to lion ball them or something like that.

It’s even more valuable for the rule to be implemented when talking about Primal variants and Piebald/ Patches. Sometimes I see those never sell as adols, but only bought as adults. And Primal females are practically just aesthetics, unless they are Ferus variant.
But it surely will cause less headache, if we could sex-change the 2-3 yr old Primal (variants)/ Piebald/ Patches lady to become our mutie replacer.
Or sex-change that male Ferus/ Piebald/ Patches to be our lovely little lady to pray to RNG to pass their damn mutation.
(This above argument does not take into account Smilus, we all know that they are a male-only Primal variant and hence hell no are u gonna change dat bro man)

I do support this suggestion, but I believe it’s going to be slightly harder for coders to reintegrate their old coding and implement the new coding required to be that specific, and hence be able to target properly what mutations are non-sex specific and what mutations are sex-specific, especially when we now have more types of mutations in-game, and that new mutations are still being added as well, along with fixing buggy codes along the way.




(I do know one thing that works well for any male AMP adols.
If by 1 years old they don’t become Maneless, then they are safe to sex-change before 2 years old to a female.
Maneless is the only male-specific AMP mutation to worry about if one is fond of the maneless mutation, the rest can still show up on females like OG claws and OG teeth.)



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🐢Eggplant🐢 (#173154)

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Posted on
2020-04-21 16:39:11
You have my full support. I once bought a ASC to use on this really pretty male Primal that aged up before I realized sex-changers were a thing. Needless to say, I was... not happy. This would be really awesome and really useful to players who don't quite understand how the sex changers work!



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Mintz2520 (#199470)

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Posted on
2020-04-23 20:27:45
Yes!! I love the pies and if I find a amazing pattern I want for a lioness but it's a male it kinda sucks I can't change them! You have my support!



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