Posted by [JUNE] Adjust Shop Prices [+411/-14]

jester [im autistic]
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2023-06-03 16:27:54
To put it frankly, the prices associated with the June event are absolutely ludicrous. A single base applicator costs 400KB, but there's 5 in the shops. Let's say you're incredibly productive and you manage 100KB a day (an unrealistic goal for most players), you'll only manage 3,000KB in the month. If you spend that all on bases, that's 7 bases. And that's assuming you buy no decor, and you always manage exactly 100 every single day.

To actually show you how impossible this is, I'm going to do some math real quick. Scary, I know. Let's say that someone doesn't sleep, at all, the entire month of June. They are on nothing but Lioden the entire time, but don't use Roasted Lambs, and they use 11 Energy Bars a day (the 9 full ones you get per day + the daily bonus + hyperactive + enclave boost). We're also going to assume someone gets a Snake Encounter for every step they take in explore, and they win every single one, and they use every single KB they get on bases.
They earn 220KB a day, 6160 for the month. That's a total of 15 base apps, for no sleeping, just continuously playing Lioden, under ideal conditions in explore. "But Jester, what about the quests?" Daily quests boosts them up from 15 base apps to 16, as you only get 10KB per day from them, and you can only do 28 of them for the month. This means that, as of 2024, when the new base apps are added to the June shop, you cannot get 1 of each base by swapping between Gods. You will not be able to by earning 220KB a day.

Now, to do the math with sleeping, we're going to take 8 hours away from that, for a total of 16 hours a day. Adding in what we did earlier, that's about 7.5 energy bars a day. Under the same ideal conditions, and doing nothing but Lioden when you're awake, that's 4,350KB, or 10 apps. Even adding in the extra 280KB you get from daily quests, that’s 11 base apps for the entire month. Doing nothing but Lioden and sleeping, and only spending your KB on base applicators. With this, you can't even get one of each base app that's currently in the shop.

These numbers are also only for one account, but also in ideal conditions where you get an encounter every step, win every battle, and spend no other energy on breeding/stud requests. For less than ideal conditions, these numbers would drop dramatically. AKA, these numbers are physically impossible. I've found some of the highest earners in June to only be averaging about 100KB a day, if that. That's only 2800KB a day, or just 7 base applicators for the entire month. For context, I bought seven Spicy Ice apps from December, and that's not even all I got.

That means for each base app in the shop, if you do nothing but sleeping and playing Lioden, no taking breaks, no stopping to eat, no anything, you can only get 2 the entire month. To take a month with comparable base applicator values, like February with the Cherry Blossom base, you can get more than DOUBLE that amount and still have enough event currency left over to do some decor shopping.

It's just ridiculous that bases cost this much with the amount of them that are now tied to the month, and are required for breeding rare and pretty popular combos as well.

Another potential option is to drastically increase the amount of KB provided by each snake, up to around 10KB a battle, like the October Night Creatures provide. That would make grinding June actually worth it, and not just a slog sandwiched between two battle heavy months that leads to extreme burnout. Though, to be honest, I think both should be implemented together, especially now that they have two shops that use KB, and plan to increase both shops loads every year.

POST JUNE DEV UPDATE:
No real changes in the amount of KB that I've noticed. All the new encounters seem to be quest locked and with no information about them on the wiki, I can't really see if their numbers are any different. From what I've noticed with the quests I've gotten, it doesn't appear to be so. In fact, both the find a cultist encounter and the find a boat encounter don't even reward KB, just a +50EXP and a quest completion.



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Edited on 24/06/23 @ 06:57:57 by jester 🏳️‍🌈 (#187561)

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Posted on
2023-06-20 10:11:20
THIS! I struggled so hard getting 808 KB. I got the two bases I wanted but I'm a SAHM so i do have to care for my children and sleep at night. I struggled so much getting the KB and was so worried I wouldn't be able to get them (and that's actually some people's reality!).

I'd say each fight is worth 10-12KB because sometimes you see like 10 in a row or see 3 the entire time you're in explore. Not to mention I made 1.6K HS in Feb and still had enough to go decor shopping after getting my bases and breeding items. I didn't use any kind of special thing for Feb yet I made enough for all the bases I wanted plus more, not including Ybark I bought.

It's a huge struggle to even get 2KB when your chosen God (I'm looking at you Anubis) doesn't want to help and you get by with at most 40KV (10KB for whatever quest you finished - if you did finish it.)



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πŸ‚GoblinπŸ‚ (#86836)

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Posted on
2023-06-22 07:57:47
I support. I barely go on during the month of june bc its honestly just so discouraging. I think for how hard the snakes are to defeat they should yield a higher reward. Maybe 5-8KB?



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Posted on
2023-06-22 12:21:44
I don't think it's going to happen :( but maybe they'll consider for next year



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LouπŸ’œ(G1) (#56350)

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Posted on
2023-06-23 06:08:34
In fact, both the find a cultist encounter and the find a boat encounter don't even reward KB, just a +50EXP and a quest completion.
(Just so you know, it does give you normal stuff you just have to go back to your diety or whatever lol)

Supported btw. The way I've been grinding any other month I woulda have triple the currency.



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olliewollie
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Posted on
2023-06-24 07:14:38
As a newer player, I haven't really figured out how to grind [what to do when your energy runs out?]. It has taken me around three weeks of logging on every day and using 2-3 energy bars each day to get barely 400 KB. Support.



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[β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2023-06-25 11:39:21
Oh right. I forgot they give me 50 EXP from the cultists too!



That definitely is a reward!
That will definitely help level me up.

:)

Sarcasm aside, at least scale the EXP reward lmao?
The fact they said they hoped that the cultist shit would help with KB gain is SO BAFFLING. it doesnt help with ANYTHING



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kreech (#430477)

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Posted on
2023-06-25 11:51:22
The new quests really aren't helping. 1kb per snake eyes lion/cultist fought isn't remotely enough to offset the imbalanced pricing, & even the quests themselves don't award much kb relative to the prices of the apps.



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