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 Axel (#6627) Pervert View Forum Posts  Posted on 2013-04-26 22:35:11 |
Well, everyone knows the Lioden developers are trying to balance the economy. However the SB cap is the worst way they could try to do so, as this will not make GB prices go down, neither will this make SB more desired. The two main reasons why people are hoarding SB: - Because what do you spend your SB on? Decorations? Not everyone is into such things and once you have decorated all your lions, what then? - Because they want to buy GB. GB has so much more uses than SB, so of course people prefer it. Now, how can we solve this? By making SB once more the main currency and giving it back some light and usefulness as it is supposed to have. And how can we do it? By introducing more items to the Monkey Business that actually arent just decorations. Items that are useful, and alter gameplay. It is a wrong setting that every useful item becomes GB only. But if there are more SB items then what will happen to GB? GB will be less worth! All amazing features should be GB only! I see it as a problem that everything that has a 'too good use' is always made GB only. Of course people will look to buy GB instead, hoarding SB, and make prices skyrocket. Make some amazing features SB only, to raise its value. While I understand that GB is needed and the purchase should be encouraged, if SB isnt supported either, then the economy is never going to be balanced. Plus SB is the main currency... yet it is useless if you dont trade... or dont like backgrounds. This thread is to suggest SB items, which you can buy from the Monkey Business ONLY, so the Oasis cannot have them. Feel free to add your own ideas. Please note that the names arent the ones I would like the items to be given. Note: I wont put prices, this is for the developers to decide what they should cost. -Customization Options- - Reroll: -Added- - Basic customization kit - Thread - -New Items- - Playtoy pack: -Added- - Critter pack: -Added- - Carcass pack: -Added- - Quest guide: This might give your lion +5-10% chance to find the item or animal you need for your quest. Of course for NPCs you will need to be in the right environment. - Anti-illness and healing items: If the sicknesses and wounds are introduced, there could be SB items to help heal the lion, lionesses and cubs. (-Original Idea-) - Cub protecting items: If cub mortality is introduced, there could be items that help avoiding it. (-Original Idea-) -Game Play- - Energy tank: -added- - Offer to snake: -added- - Smell bad: The item makes you smell bad, decreasing the chance for enemy NPC encounter, but has a slight bad effect on impression too. (-Original Idea-) - Catnip: This item will increase your impression slightly and attract slightly more females, but also catlike predators. (-Suggested by DragonSage-) - Feed all Button: -Added as GB item- - More accurate Scrying stone: For a small fee, it will also list you the markings the cubs will have. - Adolescent preview: What the name says. Just put in the lion ID and it will show you its adolescent image. (-Suggested by DragonSage-) - Adult preview: -added- - Titles for Lionesses: If the titles will be implemented, they could be sold for SB. (-Suggested by PlaguedRuby - Thread-) -New Games- - Game tokens: You buy it from the Monkey Business (For example can be a Dice) and you can roll it to get a random prize. (- Suggested by Raksha-) - The Wishing Rock: Once or twice a day sacrifice some SB to the Wishing Rock and perhaps your wishes will come true. The fee should probably be around 100 SB perhaps even more. I'd say the odds should be reasonable, perhaps 1 in 3 for something good, 1 in 6 for something bad and the rest of the time nothing. It could be used by any lion, the effects would be applied to the lion who used it. (-Original Idea-) - A daily or weekly raffle: -added- - Maze: Successful navigation through the maze and puzzle obsticals under the time limit would result in a small exp boost or stat boost. (-Suggested by DragonSage-) -SB Fees- - Plus Hunting party: -added- - Subordinate Male Slot: -added- - Signature token: Using this grants you the ability to have a signature. Can be rented for a week, then needs to be re-purchased. (-Original Idea-) |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-27 22:49:40 |
Okay, should I link the thread or do you want to have your name being credited in the first post?  0 players like this post! Like? |
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DragonSage (#4453)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-27 22:52:30 |
Link to the thread, you could probably remove the wishes to condense the idea to help keep things neat. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-27 22:59:12 |
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DragonSage (#4453)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-27 23:13:24 |
Another source of removing SB out of circulation are more mini games such as the accepted Whack a Snake idea. They would only have a small effect on removing SB out of circulation and to be effective the prizes for these mini games should probably be items or other prizes (rather than SB) or if they have SB prize options the games should take more SB out of circulation that it awards. A couple of ideas: A daily or weekly raffle The number of winning tickets and the prize pool would be dependent upon the number of entries. If a ticket cost 50 SB only 20 SB should go to the prize pool. For every 1000 SB that is in the prize pool, there would be one winning ticket drawn and the pool would be evenly split between the winners (any odd SB would be kept by the game) A maze Successful navigation through the maze and puzzle obsticals under the time limit would result in a small exp boost or stat boost. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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MajesticTiger{warrio rs} (#5219) Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-27 23:37:07 |
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Carry (#6215)
Fun View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-28 00:33:30 |
I support the idea of rasing the worth of SB. The point of a free game is to let everyone play and have fun. If the MAIN currency (SBs) is worthless and the EXTRA currency (GBs) is needed more; then something seems to be wrong. Plus, the Monkey shop is pretty empty since they took the option of purchasing the stuff the monkey purchased from us. Yes, I know that the GBs support the site and its upkeep. But how out pleasing the 'poor' people and younger members? I will admit that I purchase GBs because I have a job and can; so I have enjoyed those perks. But what about those who scrap and do there best to earn just enough SBs (400-600) just to buy 1 GB? Happy members mean they will tell others about the game; which in turn means the game gets a better chance of getting money. But in the owners of this game are only relying on the cash they get in from it to pay for the game . . . well I don't know. [/rambledsorry] 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Equestrian (Asmita :D) (#10265) Recognizable View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 05:33:58 |
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Ariel (#5014)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 12:32:52 |
I agree. GB prices are now 800-1k a piece. Capping sb will not help much if SB is not giving more value. This means some items need to be sb only. I fully support the idea of moving Male Name Changer and the Reroll to SB. Price it high, but make it SB. To me, with GB being so overpriced and rare, I'm not wasting a GB on changing a name, so I don't understand why that was even put in the Oasis to begin with... And the OP has a very good point with the Reroll. It resets your male back to level 1, so it makes sense to make that an SB item. You can't get rare colors anyway and I've seen SO many players complain and wish they could reroll their lions. That would be a big seller and help level out the economy. I also agree that more games are sorely needed. There's just nothing to do after you burn through your energy and a raffle sounds fun. I'd love to see a daily or weekly lottery. =) 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 29/04/13 by Ariel (#5014) |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 15:54:56 |
I was also thinking I might suggest something else than reroll if people are so much against it. But no one who supports GB so much will accept of course. Basic customization item: It is like the one in the oasis, and you can choose color of your lion (but cant change mane type and cant choose markings), just wild colors could be chosen if the reroll stays GB only. Explanation: This tem would bring you to a page where your lion appears with all the markings he has currently. Only the following options would be available: - Coat color (wild only) - Mane color (wild only) The following options would be unavailable: - Eye color - Mane type - Markings (Markings your lion has will be displayed but wont be able to be altered in any way) Many surely will say that this all should be GB only, and it can be abused. But seriously... One can always play with the prices. Make it 2500SB per use, which equals 5GB if we count with 500SB/1GB prices. People can either buy GB for themselves then sell it and use it (thus increasing GB sale and decreasing prices a little), or work hard in order to achieve this goal to use it. Because this isnt a subscription game as far as I know, but free to play. Which means that some features should be mixed with GB and SB purchase. Another reason why people wouldnt accept it: - because customization should be GB only, as it is an extra feature. Guys, the real reason why the economy is in the state it is, is because the GB and SB are all too separated. They need to be intervene somewhere to set the prices and value of the ingame money compared to the GB. Many other games offer plus features for premium users for ingame money, to stimulate economy and balance the two currencies. This is what is missing from this game, and this is why prices are skyrocketing. It wont stop with a simple cap. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 30/04/13 by Axel (#6627) |
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DragonSage (#4453)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 20:23:56 |
As I stated before I am on the fence on the the reroll and name changer being moved to SB only; I do think they should be SB only but the change might upset people who've already spent hard earned GB on them. Other than possibly moving the reroll to the SB domain I do NOT support for SB customization because GB funds the site, and customization is one of the biggest draws for people to buy GB; and some people regularly re-customize their lions with a new look once they get bored with the old one or once they've got enough cubs from the current look and want to get something new cub wise. I do agree that SB needs new uses, however I don't think that changing customization into the realm of SB is the way to go. There are several good SB suggestions in this thread already and I'd rather focus on introducing new SB items/features that would return SB to the primary currency. Your suggestion about introducing SB items like scar decorations is a good one since it would allow people to change their lion/ess's looks without changing their genes. Perhaps add a few other appearance decorations like 'mange' or 'mud splatter' so people can change their lion/ess appearance even more without changing their genes. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Kunto (#9123)
Recognizable View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 20:28:59 |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 20:57:47 |
I am also trying entwine the two currencies somehow and give it a set value. I do think that customization (in the small aspect) should be allowed for SB as well, of course for the right price. After all, decorations arent everything, games wont interest most people -as me either, after I didnt win four times in a row in the cups game, I just didnt play anymore seeing it a waste of money-, in a free game people who work very hard should have some kind of reward for their time. I for one have to see many level past 6-7, where they just give up and leave their lions rest for the rest of the game's life, as no matter what you do, no useful items can be bought for SB. Not even what was suggested here is useful, just gives some chance games, the others are shot down outright... I for one surely wouldnt be dumb enough to pay GB in order to give my lion wild colors. I think the opportunity to change some of the looks in wild colors only is just fair. Or give the ability in one of the prizes for the lottery for example. many would spend SB to try and win it. You cant use plus features with this SB item, as breeding wont bring in money for you, who wants wild colored cubs nowadays? It doesnt give you custom colors, so it isnt real 'customization' just a slight change which I think for the value of 5GB can be said fair. I also took out the GB customization option from my idea, so no matter if you customized before through Oasis or not, you will still get the same very basic features. I think there are enough suggestions for decorations, as not many will buy them anyway, this wont increase the SB's value significantly. We need features, no games and no decorations, that actually are useful. Games are chance, luck based completely, and I must say I am not pleased with a game if EVERYTHING is luck based. We need useful features, however I cant suggest anything for the fear that people would shoot it down and say 'it should be GB onleeeeehhhhh!!!' 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 30/04/13 by Axel (#6627) |
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DragonSage (#4453)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 23:22:05 |
Again I believe customization [even if it is 'only' wild colors] should remain in the GB realm, perhaps switch the reroll to SB but that's about it. However I'm not going to get into a debate on it so that's the last I will say on that topic since I don't think either of us will change our minds. New feature suggestions are perfectly welcome; you are not going to be able to please everyone--you will get some that people will not want or think should remain in the GB only realm however there will be others that would make excellent SB features or items or what not. There are plenty of feature suggestions with a lot of support that could easily work into SB only features or bring new SB items to the game. Here's just a couple I thought of. You could browse through the game development board and see what other ones you could see that would work well. If the personality feature was brought into effect you could have a SB item to re-roll the personality and if the personality is the multi-aspect one mentioned on page 4 of that thread; you could have specific cub-toys for SB that would increase or decrease a specific aspect of the personality so people could groom cubs to the personality type they prefer. Many people would prefer a feed all or interact all button for their lionesses/cubs. If something like that was introduced; have a small SB cost for each lioness/cub fed or interacted with that feature. For example I currently have 31 lionesses and cubs in my territory, if I didn't want to interact with them all individually, if the fee was 10 SB a lioness/cub I could pay 310 SB to interact with them all at once. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 30/04/13 by DragonSage (#4453) |
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Catnip (#8696)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 23:34:46 |
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Lupetta (#10072)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-04-29 23:50:47 |
I support most of these... I'm especially loving the ideas of mini-games (just cause I love games)... And would absolutely buy critter packs for the cubs I intend on keeping! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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