Posted by -STUCK- Mutation Suggestions Masterpost - Spoilers

Xylax (#4)

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2016-09-02 00:45:59
WARNING - ALL LINKS ON THE LIST MAY CONTAIN DISTURBING PHOTOS OF MUTATED INDIVIDUALS. YOU ARE OPENING THE PHOTOS WITH RISK OF SEEING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT UPSET YOU. THESE ARE ACTUAL PHOTOS AND NOT SOFTENED DRAWINGS OF CUTE BABBY LIONS

These are suggestions accepted, planned or considered with very high chance of success.
All approved mutations (or partially approved threads) receive a [vv] symbol. Duplicates I will just lock cause no point for me to have more than 1 of the same suggestion - don't get upset your suggestion is locked and other isn't - the idea is the same and it won, that's what counts!

If I did not approve your mutation it means I am thinking about it, waiting for more player thoughts or I didn't see it yet :o
2020 note: I stopped updating this thread too often, but did a clean up in May

Also, we have some mutations planned or are thinking about some, that aren't on the list, such as sub-mutations, rare conditions, spoilers that would ruin fun or challenges we're unsure of.

Visible since birth


Hairless - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Hairy Tail - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Ear Tufts - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Polydactyly - could give stat boost on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off paws at nicer angle.
Brachycephaly - (1 mane version) - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Syndactyly - LINK - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Cleft Nose - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off nose at nicer angle.
Double Ears - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Curled Tail - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Arachnodactyly - Game Effect: stat penalty on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult
Double Canines - game effect: hunting/patrolling/battling boosts - Art change: Lineart only, cub to adult.
Cutaneous Asthenia - Limbs that look like wings - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Leucism - like Achromia and just cover the lion with half transparent light version - Art change: Lineart Cover only, cub to adult.
Erythrism - all the dark colours have red/yellow tint - no game effect - Art change: marking recolours for all stages

Primordial Dwarfism - Game Effect: Pygmy lions, adults looking a bit like cubs still - works like Blind + cannot even breed. Dies early at 6-8 years. Big stat penalty.


Visible at Adulthood


Acromegaly - very overgrown lion, 1mane version for any type. Art change: Adult Female/Male stages different - no game effect
Overgrown Tongue - no game effect - Art change: different lineart
Excess fur for males - Hypertrichosis - planned as an applicator to match Overgrown Fur on females. Art change: Adult Male stage different. 1 mane version for any type.
Roman Nose - no game effect - Art change: Adult Female/Male stages altered. Possible pose preference to show off the nose at nicer angler.


Can show at cub-teen stages


Curly Fur - LINK - no game effect - shows at 1 year - Art change: Base only, Teen to Adult. 1 mane version.
Elongated Tail - Art change: only tail art altered - shows at 3 months - no game effect


LETHAL


Those cubs will be removed from Cub Training
Phocomelia - deformed limbs - dies at 3 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Progeria - aging super fast - dies at 1.5 year (can’t age with item) - Art: Cub and Teen versions, Cub Newborn and Young slightly altered lineart.
Amelia - lacking limbs - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Cebocephaly - LINK - eyes close together, squished face - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Noseless - LINK dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version

Proteus Syndrome - whole body deformation - game effect: can’t hunt or patrol, can’t be retired into. Health messages through life - dies randomly between 2 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult
Radial Hypoplasia - aka Squitten - causes short legs while hind legs are long. Cannot hunt, patrol etc, just like a Blind lion. Can generate birth message, dies randomly between 1 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult


Minimal art change or not visible


The thought behind those is that those mutations could be caused by breeding to old lionesses or inbreeding via user suggestions

Cross-Eyed - Art change: could be eyes-like decors layered over the lineart, responsive to the actual eye colours - stat penalty - can't be retired into, can hunt or patrol though.

Hybrids


Things are brewing! This is kept spoiler-free.

Primal variants


There's a few more variants designed and named after ancient beasts or latin/greek words, each will have a unique trait or source.

Chimera issue


Chimera is one of most suggested mutations. The issue is that it would require two sets of lion information: Two bases, set of markings each, separate eye colours etc. Sounds like a very serious problem when coding the information - the extra tables have to be coded there, but not show up in normal lions. It is VERY difficult to do that.

Method 1 - code-wise the most complex way, not even sure if possible how I imagine - adjust the lion profile by adding another table if mutation is present to show both genetics - right side is from father, left side from mother, to make it easier just copy 100% of each parent’s looks onto respectable half (unless possible, just have normal bred looks). When bred, this lion would pass only one half of the genetics (randomly picked by script).

Method 2 - easy for coding, fast to implement. Make for example 10 versions of each half show up like Achromia - covering the original picture with a random half on top of the lineart. The genetics and markings show in a normal way on the original art, and the chimera half is just separate and not affecting gameplay. If bred, only the actual information passes, and the chimera half would not.

Method 3 - create a "shadow" lion, hidden on the account, that acts as 2nd set of the Chimerism genetics. While breeding, the script picks one of the two lions, either main or shadow. The "shadow" genetics could be viewable via a special button click. We're probably not able to add another lion info chart on the lion's page just for this mutation.

Summary: We're thinking. It's a lot of work. Not anytime soon. :(





Spoilers


Dorsal Fur - Full design - Added!
Phocomelia - Full design
Progeria - Concepts
Hairless - Concept
Brachycephaly - Concept

Note: I might update this from time to time



This suggestion has 3418 supports and 16 NO supports.



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Edited on 20/12/23 @ 12:50:13 by a Moderator

Fridge 🌈 (#249436)

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Posted on
2022-11-14 21:57:12
Face the facts, a hairy tail is a crazy fluffy tail, to cute to be told



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codfishezz !! (#342592)


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Posted on
2022-11-15 17:03:09
would murder to have these actual babes in



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goblin (ice based g4
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Posted on
2022-11-22 15:25:49
mm hairless lions MMM SQUITTEN



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DEMONKAAN (#382906)

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Posted on
2023-01-11 06:35:26
an extremely deadly mutation "brazen lion"



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Kierathebigcatandme (#378140)

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Posted on
2023-01-15 17:34:40
what if there was a messed up paw mutation and messed up ear or even a messed up tail i think that would be nice



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DEMONKAAN (#382906)

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Posted on
2023-01-15 17:37:38
Lions with soul senses. They will be able to control fire, water, earth elements and use them in war.



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Spirit [HEXA DAWN G2
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2023-01-15 22:07:42
@Kaan uhm… this game focuses on REAL mutations…. not imaginary stuff 🤨



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Fᴀʀᴏ 🐊 (#267106)

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2023-01-15 23:30:37
@KAAN BELA It sounds like a good idea, but later on we face real "magical" creatures. I think it just won't have the same "wow" effect on a king/queen when they face those magical creatures. Not just that, lioden has stated that "too magical" is not for them, I remember them saying they won't to 3 eyes as a mutation because it was too "magical." So I think soul senses is too far off for them. :)



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Edited on 15/01/23 @ 23:31:36 by Clipse`G2 DBSRTovero Nautilus' (#267106)

Fridge 🌈 (#249436)

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Posted on
2023-01-16 00:14:12
Method 2 for the Chimera sounds like the best way- literally would be



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Sandwich Snail (G3
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2023-02-10 21:28:53
I've had an idea for Gigantism, I guess Primal Default could count (If you wanna be technical cuz Primal Default lions are massive) but Gigantism could count as a Late Death Lethal, since the heart of the lion wouldn't keep up with his/her blood flow that's relitave to the size- They could die randomly between adolescence and adult hood like the Deaf. They could be larger sent and muscular in appearance with thicker muzzles and the males could have Tsavo-esque manes?



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Weagle (ripe double
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Posted on
2023-02-11 08:10:19
When will this be updated?



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Whyhound (#243345)

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Posted on
2023-02-18 21:12:05
personally these are some ideas of my own-

Limbless in the front two legs- ive seen kittens and puppies born with weird genetic issues that caused them to lose their legs in the womb.

Two sets of ears - although this can be done with decors there are numerous kittens born with two sets of ears, probably not fully functional but would be a very cute addition

eye mutation- theres a birth defect in some cats where the pupil in the eye starts to bleed out into the rest of the eye like a yolk, i havent read very far into this defect but it would be interesting to play with

new jaglion hybrid (jaguar x lion)

bringing wolvden ideas here such as lethals gaining the ability to has piebald/patches/melanism



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ღ peach . 10/14 GB (#261357)


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Posted on
2023-02-25 19:59:47
I would suggest adding "Tiguars" (tiger x jaguar hybrid) but thats like 0% lion so



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Fridge 🌈 (#249436)

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2023-02-26 18:31:04
@Whyhound The wolvden lethal pies/patches/melanism idea is double mutation, it's already been denied due to the different coding wolvden has to lioden, double ears are a thing that they are In the works of adding, Jaglion has already been suggested, limb less is a good idea but I think it's already been suggested, the rest good ideas!!



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ღ peach . 10/14 GB (#261357)


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Posted on
2023-02-27 21:05:04
Woah they're gonna add double ears soon?



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