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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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Posted on
2019-09-12 08:42:44
It actually does. It says during special circumstances. From the post------

New Combo Base!
A new combo base is now available to be bred during special circumstances!
Ember is a Golden Dark Countershaded Special base that can be bred from now on year-round from the following factor bases:
Factor 1: Blazing, Fiery
Factor 2: Flint, Pewter



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2019-09-12 08:44:06
Ooh ok, I somehow managed to completely miss that 😂 I wonder if the litter has to be bred during the day or night, since there's items that work on those rules.



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Posted on
2019-09-12 08:53:11
Yep! That's about what I was thinking, once I come into some SB I'll run some scrying. Which items run on day and night?



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2019-09-12 08:55:56
I believe it's an item for upping primal odds?



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Roseeye (G1 Primal
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2019-09-12 08:56:56
Mukemembro? Or Pennyroyal? I don't think either of those depend on day and night cycles



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2019-09-12 09:12:14
Just checked and its Mukombero that I was thinking of.

"Give this to a non-mutated lioness, then breed her at night in order to invoke the primal spirits. One cub from her next litter will become a Ferus beast, sworn by the spirits to hunt down any human outlaws that dare to murder the sacred African wildlife.c



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Posted on
2019-09-12 09:25:20
Alrighty I scryed 100sb on Ember x Ember and got 1 Ember. Once its daytime again I'll do another 100sb between the same pair.



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2019-09-12 09:33:28
Oh sick, didn't know that part XD Thought it was just like any breeding item

Maybe try the factor bases instead of two embers? I think if you breed the base back to itself or a factor the restrictions don't matter anymore, like, how you can breed Pulsar outside of july if you breed it back to another pulsar, or one of it's combos



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Posted on
2019-09-12 09:41:57
Alrighty, scryed 100sb Blazing x Flint and didn't get any Embers. I'll do it again during daytime.



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Posted on
2019-09-12 09:42:54
Cool cool cool, i'll do one like that in a second (Gotta get some homework done XD)



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Posted on
2019-09-12 13:59:32
Could I have some help with this ?

So if I breed Alabaster x Sha, I can get a Rose Gold - right ?




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Posted on
2019-09-12 14:12:00
Yes! =)



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Posted on
2019-09-12 14:14:26
Thank you ^^



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Posted on
2019-09-13 00:22:18
I've been thinking about Ember's special conditions, and it just occured to me that it may be related to when people usually light up a fire? So either it's only breedable during the night, or, alluding to the name, it may also be only breedable at dusk, when unatended fires go out and all you have left are embers?



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Posted on
2019-09-13 07:42:48
Theoretically that sounds good, but is there a 'dusk' time on here? I thought it was just day/night



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