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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2017-09-18 03:55:15
Champagne is special



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2017-09-18 03:57:10
Heck, my lack of knowledge of non-black bases strikes again! But yeah, news specifically pointed out that the selected bases were Special, and I don't think they want the Combo bases to be too easy to obtain; if all else fails maybe, but I still doubt it. ^^'

I mean, the Combo bases are all Specials, so making one out of non special bases would be a lot harder (15% special for one parent vs 30% if both) and it'd feel a little easy compared to, say, Cairn with 3/4 of one half being very hard to breed in the first place.



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Edited on 18/09/17 @ 03:59:52 by Agryo [Side, F7Silver breeder] (#84746)

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2017-09-18 03:58:19
"We’d like for you guys to figure out the other three bases so we don’t spoil the surprise, but to give you the best example, here is how Cairngorm can be obtained - you can notice it is produced by special bases." <-- That looks like a hint to me.

I'm going to try Nacre and Buttercream.



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2017-09-18 04:00:23
I've wasted like over 1000sb on this. This is why I don't do the slots game and I refuse to enter a casino IRL.



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2017-09-18 04:03:06
I play Slots every hour if I can. Sometimes it leaves me broke for a few hours, others it gives me SB back

Do you think some of the admins stalk this thread, and laugh at our fumbling? xD



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2017-09-18 04:05:34
Probably XD
One of the Citrine bases is a Base Changer base, right? Don't know much about golden.



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2017-09-18 04:06:16
Both Topaz and Xanthic are Custom, yup.



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2017-09-18 04:07:20
Hmmm... Gonna try some Onyx X Sepia, see if that could be the last Mad base. Unless someone has already tested it?



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2017-09-18 04:08:09
I don't think so?



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2017-09-18 04:15:25
H3h3 you're lucky with 1000sb, I dumped 20k sb on that
I tested onyx, ebony and everything else, but maybe didn't have the luck



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Edited on 18/09/17 @ 04:16:42 by The Fading Shade (#93497)

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2017-09-18 04:23:27
Did anyone try Russet x Lilac yet?



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2017-09-18 04:31:42
If... we needed bases related to plants to breed Qahir... Lilac is a flower, Russet is an apple variety... Ebony is a tree, and so is Cherry Blossom.... 2 cream and 2 black bases, so those could be one side.... and the other one would be made up from all cream?



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2017-09-18 05:41:35
I tried Russet and Lilac



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2017-09-18 09:16:49
Tried these, feel free to recheck I only do like 15 tries.

Cherry Blossom x Onyx/Ebony/Hematite/Lilac

Lilac x Amber/Buttercream/Buff/Buttermilk/Nacre/Hallowed

Hematite x Hallowed/Nacre

Hematite x Russet = Qahir





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2017-09-18 09:17:32
Ah, finally a Qahir ^^



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