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Having to pay to open a shop with the currency that shop uses is...contradictory.

It's like paying a fee just to walk into a Walmart.

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support! ive been super tired and busy lately, and i was already a casual player before that, but at this point im struggling to get even 10 eggs a day. i probably won't make enough in the entire month to donate for these tiers. it just feels really mean and out-of-nowhere to come at casual players like this just because of a few lazy piggybackers that weren't actually really hurting anybody, especially for a game that's full of adults with jobs and busy lives and stuff.

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I initially liked the idea of the personal donation feature and had hope that the donation aspect would be reasonable, but with the eggs breaking and a moderate egg drop rate, I'm gonna have to rescind on my earlier support. And with it coming to light that this system may spread to other events, I fully support this suggestion.

Having tiers unlock on certain dates sounds like the best solution considering the progress bars get pushed back or manually unlocked depending on the rate the shops are being opened anyways. If staff still wants us to work as a community during events, I think those efforts should be redirected either into something else or have a new feature be introduced that doesn't interrupt player efforts to collect event currency.

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I'd also like to point out that a lot of players rely on events almost entirely to get the GB they REQUIRE for their prides. You cannot play this game to the fullest without GB. Don't make it harder than it has to be for players who can't buy GB to make it in-game, that's absolutely ridiculous.

If Lioden wants to keep a happy userbase, and possibly a userbase at all, they'll remove this ridiculous feature. I personally would not play Lioden at all if all or most events became essentially a pay-to-play, especially events that are dire to the community (February, September, and August, especially).

I shouldn't have to slave over something that is made for fun. That's what this game is for, it's what all games are for. And let me tell you, this is not fun.

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The idea of personal donations was pretty cute on paper: you want goodies, you've got to do a little work for 'em and I guess it sorta fits in with Easter??? A bit???

But donating the currency you're trying to spend to even spend the currency? No one should have to use three days' worth of active Exploring just to be able to use the currency they'll find on the other 28 days, it just feels backwards.

Plus it isn't even just you effected by donating or not; donating eggs is what will unlock the Egg Den tiers for you and other users, which is just. Why is this a thing? Who thought it'd be a good idea?

I won't repeat what's been said here, but it'll be extremely damaging to the casual players' goodwill, and possibly encourage hiatuses when usually active players happen to hit a rough spot. [Say, final exams are coming up soon; what happens if I miss 3-4 days due to studying [pretend I'm casual, pretend I only roll like 10-12 days a month], the 3-4 days I would have needed to gather enough currency to even unlock the shop? Do I pour 'em all in to only have enough for a few Decor, or say 'to hell with this' and stop playing LD to focus on other things instead?]

My main account is rolling weekly to preserve my king's lifespan; at this rate, I won't even be able to open the shop for him. [I'm gaining ~40 eggs a day, usually gain a little less currency on that account due to studding, so ~30 a day probably... not looking good.]

Personal goals could work in other ways; why not have the tiers unlock when you have personally collected X Fluffball points, or donated X Lucky Feet [a common drop this Event, but not Event currency] or a quest item [like Phantom Quartz in June] that'll be used specifically to unlock tiers? A good idea on paper, but really terrible in its current execution.

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At this point there's had to been an admin that's seen this, and what are they doing about it? Nothing? This damn feature never should have existed and yet in order for this sim to work the admins need to listen to what people on here say, but in the past few months I've seen so little of it that it's become a big issue that can be fixed by just spending five minutes on a reply, and believe it or not, 5 minutes is only 0.3 percent out of a whole 24 hours, so this is just ridiculous. I don't have all fuckin' day to collect eggs, and with them breaking, it just puts more stress on Lioden's players, which you never want?? Unless something changes about this and a lot of other things it's possible Lioden will die in the coming years.

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I'd like to point out that it was more implied that there will be a "personal goal" unlock for events, not a "donation unlock", so for the Flood Event, it might be you need to participate in X number rituals(since there are users, such as myself, who actually prefer the massive floods) to unlock tiers. (Although I believe there is already a similar thing in place for the Flood event.) Or the celestial event requires you to use amusement items to catch fireflies in the Cloud Forest, and the more times the Cloud Forest is visited, the faster the Firefly Shop is unlocked. For me personally, I rarely even bother with the Cloud Forest more than once or twice a day, since you only get a few fireflies each time anyway. Therefore, there could be a personal goal of number of times you need to visit the Cloud Forest to unlock the Firefly Shop tiers. February might end up having a "slap" goal, for another example.

That being said, I'm not too fond nor I am fully against the personal donation/goal thing. I'm on the fence for now, I guess. I'm not an active player as far as exploring goes, and yet I've already collected 100 eggs in three days, but then again, eggs aren't too hard to come by(compared to other event currencies). That's not so much the case for many other event currencies/points. I think it's partially fine for April and maybe other events in the future, but it definitely needs some changes for others(or to not exist for some).
I will, say, however, I'm probably leaning more towards the side of supporting this or similar suggestions. To me, it sort of depends on what the staff decide to do with future events and the "personal goal" sort of system.

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Yup. Fairly casual player here (don't tend to get on a huge amount during the workweek) and I haven't even been able to unlock Tier 1 yet. Doubt I'll have enough eggs to get anything once I unlock it either, so I'm kind of not bothering. :/

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Like....staff already monkeys around with event numbers because they have an idea in mind of when they want us to open tiers and they DEFINITELY fuck with this to keep it to their idea. This pisses off users, especially when they pull that BS they did with the 3rd Tier last month with 2 MILLION points needed just because we going just a little too fast for their liking. We only had like what? 2-3 days to actually enjoy the tier being opened?

Just add dated unlocks. It makes everyone's lives easier.

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I agree with all of you, supported. As an extremely active player, like Torq, it would take me 3 days to reach the third tier. What about players that are more casual? They shouldn't be punished like this with more bars elsewhere. The April Primordial Spring donations made sense, because it's special, and I like being in charge of that for myself. But bars on other events? Especially hard to find currency months? And this month is a LOW bar month? I'm scared about what is going to happen to the player base if this happens every event. I know in months like September I probably won't be able to even scrape together enough to open bars, and that's even being extremely active.

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"Some people are fine with the personal goals, but want the sitewide goal to be gone. That is the same as buying the feature. Just stop calling it donations. Remove the sitewide goal (/change it to a gather goal), call it a purchase, and that's all."

This is the best solution for April, imo. I have 0 issue with having an optional tier you can essentially buy with currency, but don't make everyone else suffer the consequences if the sidewide goal isn't unlocked (though it seems to have worked out ... this time, but it most likely won't in the future, especially if the tiers get bumped up too high)

Paying 75/100 eggs to de-age your male 2 years is not unreasonable to me at all. What IS unreasonable is there being not only a personal tier, but ALSO a global tier that ALSO has to be unlocked for you to even use the feature you PAID for.

So I'm supporting this because other events do not need "donation" tiers like this. In fact, all tiers should be on set release dates, imo, as others have suggested.

EDIT: There is something I want to point out about all tiers costing 150 EE, however: Doing Wenet's quests will give you enough to buy 150 EE. This is including the Primordial Spring quest, but doing all of her quests even without that one will still get you a lot of EE, so even if you can't explore much, doing her quests (which don't take very long) will at least get you very close. After all quests are complete, you can do repeats for +2 Hare Points so even if you still wanted to buy decors after that, you could.

EDIT #2: Oh right, and one of the best things about it simply being a personal unlock tier is that it means the number never has to be changed, because it will not have to fluctuate depending on how many users are active.

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Support. Full support.

I'm a casual player. Once, some time ago when life wasn't so hectic, I was able to get on daily. Now, I struggle to balance school, study, family, athletics, jobs, and the numerous animals I care for. I simply don't have the time. I get on every few days or so to feed my lions, but that's about all. The cool thing about this game, is that it allows for all players, casual or full-time, to enjoy. Just kinda shitty overall. The event tiers have always been unlocked before, why was there ever a need for this? It punishes those who don't literally sell their souls for a pixel lion game

This feature must burn

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I was all for the personal donation when I first saw it. As of right now I think i'm still ok with it since its not for decor and such but just to change your lions age. I think 150 EE is a decent price for that.

However I support this. I don't want donations for all events. I don't even think I want personal goals for every event unless they were reasonable and didn't fluctuate, but it seem every event tier fluctuates down and up. I think that seeing this was LOW for a donation tier is kinda scary. I don't want half or over half of my currency to go to just being able to access a tier especially if it has items I need or decor :/

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