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 Crimson| G7 Celestial Tobi (#142304) Holy View Forum Posts  Posted on 2019-03-31 13:18:20 |
Addendum: I made this years ago and it still gets a little traffic. I don't know how exactly I feel about it anymore, however I think it's still important to leave up and on the table due to how many people care about it. There's still decor that bothers me, like the starving puppy/cub decors but I don't see an easy way for the team to make it so a player hides specific decor but not a bunch of others they don't want to hide. And then deciding what gets included: there's so many individual triggers and fears that it's impossible to really pick them all out. Looking back the amount of work this would take is more that I imagined back then, unless somehow the code for hiding pregnant lions is reusable. I'd still love to hear everyone's thoughts and takes on censoring sensitive art on the site, though, especially if you have actual experience in web development or the work end of things! Just please keep it civil and respect where others are coming from :> Recently many people, including myself, have been bothered by the maggot decor in the event so I’ve changed the title to be more inclusive. This still applies to lethal art and any other grotesque art This personally does not bother me, but I can see how it bothers some people. You can be looking through lions and come across a scary lethal, a lion with some scary decor, ect. While this is a 16+ game and certainly not for the faint hearted, some of these mutations and decors can strike certain phobias and are highly disturbing As such, I think a toggle option to hide these things would be very useful. The toggle could be located in den options? This toggle will make it so that players who want to see the mutations are not affected, but those who don't won't have their experience spoiled! perhaps when going to a lion with these decor/mutations, a pop up can show up saying "this lion has disturbing material. Proceed/Back" and perhaps a link to change the toggle can be included in the pop up. It is NOT required but if you no support (since there is a lot) explaining your position would be helpful! Perhaps I can edit the suggestion |
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smileymittens [g1 albino] (#230008) Untitled View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-12-19 16:05:47 |
Maybe also for explore encounters? I think some 16 year olds [on the innocent side] might not want to see all those febuary explore encounters...  1 player likes this post! Like? |
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Radio (she/her) (#329267)
Savage View Forum Posts Posted on 2022-08-31 14:21:28 |
i'm gonna have to hit no support, but really only for the lethal mutation side. a lot of disabled people with similar mutations have campaigned for more acceptance, particularly for not having their appearance being warned for. lethal mutations can be shocking to see for some (i was startled by the cyclopia art at first), but we should use it as a learning opportunity for the sake of real people like them. HOWEVER, i do agree on the side of other imagery. like the above person said, the february encounters are a good example, as are some march encounters. and decor too! the gore/body horror side of things could certainly have a toggle. 2 players like this post! Like? |
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[ heartbroken ] [ G2 ] (#209190) Necromancer View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-01 20:34:20 |
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Felinea (#226358)
Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-01 21:06:09 |
I'm gonna "bump" my previous comment bc I still think it might be a better solution, since it's more inclusive and might be easier to code (the images would simply not load instead of having to design a whole new system). i support the anti wishlist previously suggested also! https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429355343&page=4#304444278130 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 01/08/23 @ 21:07:30 by Felinea (#226358) |
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ink🍋[he/him] (#391538)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-01 23:49:20 |
No support, if something makes someone uncomfortable they're not being forced to look at it. I may even say that if certain things like blood, death, bones etc bother you, this game probably isn't for you, as even some explore encounters could be considered bothersome or triggering. With lethals, you don't have to look at them/purchase them, or even interact with that sort of thing. I think it's important that people manage their own triggers and stuff like that, I don't believe it's the community's/sites job to censor those sorts of things. And as another user said, "how far does the censorship go"? and who decides on what's appropriate/inappropriate? 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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Felinea (#226358)
Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 07:02:11 |
you're forced to look at it if you play in events or want to stud to other kings and there's decor of it. and the game in itself is not about gorey things. so ppl who genuinely like this game but are sensitive to that just shouldn't play? that's awful ppl can't always manage their own triggers and shouldn't be forced to confront them if they just want to play a game they like about *lions* and the person themselves would figure out what's appropriate or inappropriate for them. it wouldn't affect anyone else. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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🦣 cy . · · (#417126) Sinister View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 07:43:18 |
I agree with the sentiment. Nature is brutal and those aspects of it are present in the game, but also way beyond that. Lethal mutations and extreme gore and body horror are not necessarily common in nature. The Poaching event can be an exception since it spreads awareness about the kinds of injuries people cause animals, we all know that one Elephant screen in Explore, and the testicle breeding items are a bit of a shocker at first but you get used to it. I do think that Lioden should be allowed to have its own sense of humor, at times very edgy, but sometimes it’s a bit too much, and people should be allowed to toggle it off in their profile settings. I mean, for some reason, we can toggle the Nesting pose for lionesses on and off, but we can’t toggle off brutal gore and mutilation That’s weird. I think the lethal mutations could be toggled off, and then their art would look like a normal cub without any mutation, but there’d be a flavor text at the top saying “This lion has the {blank} Mutation! It’s been toggled off for your convenience. Would you like to preview the lion with its mutation on?” and pressing the button “Yes” would refresh the site and toggle the mutation on. Then turn it off with another manual refresh of the page. But if that’s too complicated to code, it could also say “If you’d like to see lethal mutations again, disable the toggle in your Settings {here}.” I am personally a pretty emotionally strong and disciplined person, but even I feel hurtful and sad when I see lethal mutations, on top of that, with those flavor texts they have. It’s not “overly sensitive” to be uncomfortable with realistic depictions of animal mutilation. 3 players like this post! Like?Edited on 02/08/23 @ 09:47:09 by 🦣 kirill (#417126) |
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[ heartbroken ] [ G2 ] (#209190) Necromancer View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 08:58:32 |
I'm fine with most gore- it's not even the gore on this site that bothers me (March encounters just make me sad). The ticks and maggot decors make me itchy and uncomfortable, and they kinda just pop up in random places. If I wanted to avoid them completely I could never look at another king's page (no more studding), never look through item trades in TC, never even make my own trade asking for items in TC, and wouldn't be able to buy anything from the same event shop as them- therefore missing out on a full month of being able to stock up on pricier/better items. That's a pretty massive portion of the game I'd have to cut myself off from completely just to avoid 3 decors I'm not okay with seeing. 2 players like this post! Like? |
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Vixxie|#1 mane whiskered hater (#355386) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 09:11:29 |
I find this a little bit of a hard decision. I do agree that some gruesome things are part of the nature of the game, but new players might find them surprising. Also, over sexual decor? I haven't seen any of those, can you give me an example? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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🦣 cy . · · (#417126) Sinister View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 09:43:42 |
Hahahaha Crossroads > Branch Search > Custom Decors > View Custom Decor List Scroll down. This decor is just about always on the front page because it begins with "A", "A Clingy Nirah" It's not pornographic but it is clearly suggestive. R18 stuff definitely is declined when it's submitted as custom decor, but the hentai blush and fog on this one is a bit much I think. Not even February decor of any kind is like that, it's more wholesome and (february explore encounters) more clearly painted in a lighthearted way. And I don't mean to insult the creator of the custom decor at all. It's very well drawn! More importantly, it IS custom decor, so you're not really forced to engage with it constantly, the way there are thousands of players who focus on lethal mutations. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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🦣 cy . · · (#417126) Sinister View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-02 09:46:24 |
Actually I'll remove the custom decor part of my original argument, cause I changed my mind. There isn't an overflow of perverse custom-/ decor, so it doesn't matter in this discussion. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Leopold (#441734)
Magnificent View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-08-03 04:31:43 |
Esp. If they had an option to hide eye burning colourbombs bc eyestrain. Support 0 players like this post! Like? |
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[△] Nadir (#108458)
Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-03 01:12:38 |
Sophie | Dorsal Fur 5x Dawn! (#355386): Sexual decors also include BDSM gear. Like, that's not an exageration. This is the description on the collar from February.  Which, for some reason was also fitted to cubs, with a description like that. Even things like that could easily make folks uncomfortable for a plethora of reasons, but this one is more situational to encounter, than gore and mutilation in events, which players are often blindsided by. For instance, the Interstellar Remnants storyline includes a lion who is horrifically mutilated, with no warning. Up until this point, the story is about sparkly dust from space, GIANT ENEMY CRAB (/ref), and cute little demiurge dwarf. It blindsided me the first time I was playing, and then, I began to connect the dots. This is a storyline about the Cancer Constellation. This is a storyline about cancer... the disease. After losing someone in my life to it, and still recovering, I had not been prepared for the story to take this kind of turn, and I'd needed to take a step back from the game. Content Warnings and Sensitive Art toggles should be freely available to all players. I wish I could have blocked this on my other account when I had to re-do this quest. It would be nice if there was a coded in function to simply right click and block, but that might be a bit more complicated. 4 players like this post! Like?Edited on 03/10/23 @ 01:16:52 by [△] Nadir (#108458) |
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🌌Snive Snebbles🌌 (#441306) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-27 10:11:30 |
No support. It’s a good idea in hindsight but like many others have stated— what’s inappropriate and what’s not? Yes, people are made uncomfortable by certain decors/mutations but if it bothers them that much either don’t interact with it or don’t play the game. Nobody is forcing anyone to look at upsetting decors or mutations. Additionally, this seems like absolute HELL to try and code. As to the replies talking about hiding explore encounters: you can already do that with an image blocker. TL;DR If something makes you uncomfortable don’t interact with it. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 27/10/23 @ 10:12:21 by 🌌Snive Snebbles🌌 (#441306) |
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[△] Nadir (#108458)
Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-29 08:56:30 |
🌌Snive Snebbles🌌 (#441306) :: While I understand where you're coming (to an extent), this would bar players from interacting with core parts of the game - events, storyline quests. Often times, some upsetting things are presented with us having no ability to *not* view it. For example - and I think I used this earlier - I know someone who plays with a phobia of scorpions - including images. It's a 50/50 gamble if the newsletter for August is going to include scorpion imagery. And even if they don't include it in item previews in the newsletter, they're forced to see them in the store page. Would you simply tell them that they aren't allowed to partake in the entire August event because of this one detail? Or would it be easier - and more empathetic - to let the community vote on items to include under a sensitive art toggle? Here's a mockup of a settings page players could access from a button in their den. _________________________________________________  _________________________________________________ I'd also like to run down a quick FAQ here. Q: Who'd get to decide what is or isn't a sensitive topic? A: The people who are affected by it, not users who have no use for this function. Q: Wouldn't this be hard to code? A: Toggles are so easy to code that I as a beginner coder have written code for them. This site is infinitely more complicated in most other functions than a toggle. And if something is caught in the sensitive art toggle that you want to see anyways? Give users the option to click the censored art square to show it. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 29/10/23 @ 08:57:48 by [△] Nadir (#108458) |
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