Posted by The Great Genetic Reorganization (100 Supports!)

KyraG ||Clean
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2019-07-23 00:52:36

WARNING: The linked spreadsheet is image heavy.


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I knew that Lioden's base color genetics were... odd. I looked at Typhon's Genetic Rehaul Suggestion and Minubell's Combine Similar Bases Suggestion, and realized that these could easily be combined. A complete rehaul of what Lioden has done with their bases, based on visually what makes sense...

... Or at least some sense, in Labradorite's case. Uhg.

Without further ado, here is my spreadsheet of my interpretation of a Genetic Reorganization. References from Typhon's and Minubell's threads have been taken with permission, and the sheet is mocked in the style of the Lioden Wiki Genetics page.

I'll give you a minute to peruse the sheet, compare between it and the official genetics page.

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Now that you're back, I'm sure you have questions. I'll preemptively answer some of them:

  • Blacks had far too many browns in them. Most of these were sorted into either reds or creams, whichever visually matched with what already existed in those groups.

  • Bases that should have been Countershaded from the start have been moved as such, and several bases that had barely any countershading to warrant their placement (Moonstone, Hematite, looking at you) were moved to Solid.

  • Several bases were completely combined, to get rid of superfluous bases. This is exemplified with the base I marked "Dark Golden x3", which is actually the bases "Dark Golden", "Zarafshan", and "Zarbanu". Are there differences between these? Yes, but they're so minuscule that it takes bouncing between them several times to notice it. If it takes that sort of effort to notice the differences between your bases, they're way too close together.

  • Labradorite belongs literally nowhere. Literally. I could NOT place this thing anywhere, so I shoved it in Black Medium Countershaded along with all the others that belong nowhere. Locust was similar, as it's such a wreck of a base. Oh, and Parhelion. Good god.

  • Maybe when we get more greens and have a proper grouping for them, Green can Not be where it is. Even having it there as is is painful. I don't care that it's not passable, it shouldn't be there.

  • Golden Solid and Red Solid all just need some new life. Look at how sparse they are now. Absolutely decimated.


I'm sure there's things I missed, I'm also sure there's things here that not everyone agrees with. This is not taking into account what people are doing breeding wise, no taking into account common / uncommon / special, no denoting their specialties (such as NCL only, combo), nothing like that. This is just a straight up visual interpretation of what the genetics ought to be based upon what structure we have.

Please feel free to support, ask any questions, comment on what you like, comment on what changes can be made. If there's any glaring issues, I'll update the sheet and mark the changes on this post.

Thank you for your time.
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EDIT July 24 2019:
The following changes have occurred:
  • Sterling moved from Black Medium Countershaded to Black Light Countershaded
  • Opal moved from Black Light Solid to Black Light Countershaded
  • Parhelion moved from Black Dark Countershaded to Black Medium Countershaded
  • Rhino moved from Black Medium Countershaded to Black Dark Countershaded
  • Saffron moved from Golden Medium Countershaded to Golden Light Countershaded
  • Xanthic added (how did I miss this??????)
  • Sulphur moved from Golden Light Solid to Golden Light Countershaded
  • Green moved from Golden Medium Solid to Golden Medium Dark (not that it matters much anyways...)
  • Wine moved from Red Medium Countershaded to Red Dark Countershaded
  • Brass moved from Red Dark Countershaded to Red Dark Solid (seriously I can't decide what is this, if Sha's a solid so is Brass imo)

EDIT July 26th 2019:
The following changes have occurred:
  • NEW SHEET ADDED: "Sheet With Iridescent as Shade". This is a theoretical idea utilizing Xylax's Iridescent Suggestion, subset being Iridescent being a Shade (Solid / Countershaded) instead of a completely different Color Grouping (Black, Cream, ect). This idea is incredibly rough, not to mention bare because of how few bases would currently fit whatever arbitrary guidelines that would make up the Iridescent Shade group.
    This idea was made to present to Xylax alongside the entirety of the Great Genetic Reorganization. Pray for me.
  • Tidying up of the sheets to make at least somewhat more condense.


EDIT August 10 2019:
I am updating for the new August bases! Please wait warmly. You get it, warmly, because it's August and it's the drought season and-
I'll see myself out.
  • New bases Scoundrel and Ember added! And immediately moved.
  • Scoundrel moved from Red Medium Countershaded to Red Light Countershaded. It's honestly a toss-up, the blue of the back keeps throwing me off.
  • Ember moved from Gold Dark Countershaded to Red Medium Countershaded.


If you see anything you don't like, please let me know! Dislike the whole idea? Tell me why! Thank you for reading. <3



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Edited on 10/08/19 @ 00:30:42 by KyraG ||Destroyers|| (#66273)

Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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Posted on
2019-08-07 19:02:55
Agree bases should go where they make sense, not just where the chart needs "filled in" or what the f- is going on. Like everytime, I'm going to disagree with Labradorite being in black. It leaves breeders that like gold and colorbombs with ... Uh... Green that won't pass and maybe xanthic? I use xanthic all the time for naturals though.

And since it belongs nowhere, throw us that like splashes of color and gold bases a bone.



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Edited on 07/08/19 @ 19:04:24 by Bezthiel (#81210)

KyraG ||Clean
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Posted on
2019-08-07 22:30:42
@Bezthiel

That's p valid honestly. The blue keeps making me want to place it with the blacks, but that's a whole 'nother beast lmao



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Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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Posted on
2019-08-07 23:02:08
I know. It just doesn't belong. There's this whole nice set of bases that can pretty much be lined up from white to black. ...then on its own waaaay off on a diagonal is Labradorite, hangin' out with green.

Unfortunately since gold, solid especially, gets so little real variation it may as well stay.



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