Posted by Karma shops and encounters!

Maro (9BO Primal
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2022-01-20 07:39:55
Hello! Today I wanted to share my idea about what else could, in my opinion be done with karma feature. Before that, I will share some thoughts about karma in general.

What are my feelings about karma in this game?

When I was a new player, I was really excited for this mechanic. Collecting karma with good deeds, and losing it with bad ones is rather common concept everyone knows, but it's not common in world of games! I used to collect it with passion, and was happy when I got a new title. Although, after discovering all of the titles and all karma encounters I noticed that the perks from being devoted to this mechanic are very little!
Today, at my 3rd year of playing, I don't even pay attention to what option I choose. Sometimes I smile to the fennec, sometimes I kill it and shrug. I am not a kind of competitive player who would want to be in game's karma leaderboards. But I would like to have a point collecting it anyway!

What I do like about karma?

I like when decisions matter! I am trying to always pick the good deed. At the beggining I really paid attention to all my decisions, and I had this little stress when I accidentally did something bad xD That was before I discovered, collecting karma doesn't offer as much as I thought it does.
I like karma backgrounds in explore and I am always smiling when I see "the world is beautiful and respects you" encounter. Literally, that's wholesome.
I like the titles, but it's too easy to collect them!

What I think could be added to the karma system?

1. More encounters that are the result of our decisions, not only encounters that are to gain or lose karma! What if we could meet a lion merchant, wouldn't it be a nice addition to explore? Old, white lion that praise us for being a good lion, and selling colorful gems. On the contrary an angry gray lion that sees us as worthy opponent and offers us black and dark colored gems...

2. My favourite concept, Karma shop!
What If we could spend the karma in some way? The amount of gained karma wouldn't be changed, like, we wouldn't lose it. The "spent" numbers would be locked, but would exist on our karma account anyway.
Example:
I gained 1000 karma, went to the karma shop, spent 500. I still have 1000 and I am a good lion, but I can only spend 500 more. The full amount only changes with my deeds!

Bad lions could have their own shop too, but they would operate on negative numbers.

What could be in a such karma shop?
Some little items, the decor that would be just created to be rather common. Like, we all have pouched rats and crows in explore and our hoards are full of scars and bloodbath backgrounds.
Items on low levels of karma shops could be as popular as them.
It could be nice earrings, claws, jewelry, little animal companions, flowers, bony decors etc...
But the more expensive items, the more unique they are. Body ornaments, rainbows, or scary body paints. Decors that would be on foreground of our lions picture, like mossy stones, but bloody for bad lions and colorfully painted for good ones. I think there can be many, many ideas!
Of course the most expensive items could be the backgrounds. These backgrounds that appear in explore when we gain the certain number of karma. I think it could be a really nice challenge to work for them. I see them as, maybe 2000 or even 5000 karma items!
Maybe the karma shops could contain some items that give some little effects for gameplay.
Grain of Paradise for really dedicated players, or Shadow of Death would fit there perfectly.

Does such karma shop have to be easy accesible?

To make items more unique, it could be something like a flood pit. Appears occasionally, shown to us by a strong shaman NPC or lost angel lion. Maybe it can be the random meeting of Manticora handsome guy?
Maybe the shop would need to have something donated to reroll items, just like boneyard in January's event?

Ideas for a neutral playstyle and Dream Shop concept for neutral players:


Ideas and stories for karma shops will be here too!
Concept for good karma NPC (drawn by me)


Thank You for reading.
I think there are many players that also think Karma is a mechanic with great potential, but it can have more options. If collecting or losing karma would have more sense, we would be more motivated and focused on our decisions. It will also make Protective and Heartless personalities more interesting and wanted! Who knows, maybe karma-only marking/skin applicators could be a thing too? Crafting recipes for good or bad lions?
Please consider my idea and tell me what do You think about it! Support if You find it interesting!

Also, everyone please remember








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Edited on 01/03/24 @ 16:03:12 by Maro (9BO Primal Scoundrel) (#167078)

Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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2022-01-23 03:46:38
The Shop Of Generosity

[Insert image here]
You've been exploring for hours upon hours so far this morning, and you feel that you need a rest. Conveniently, you come across a cave with a vine veil across the entrance. The cave is warm inside, with a gentle breeze that seemed to make you feel tired and worn out even more than you already were.

You move over to a secluded spot far from the sun shining in between the vines, laying down and slowly dozing off into a slumber.

You wake up to the gentle sound of birds singing and the light hum of a lion's purr. You open your eyes to gaze around lazily, until you meet your eyes with another lion's.

"Kindness brings you here, to the dream realm of those who are generous. I have an arrangements of sorts to reward you for your kindness shown whilst you explore the vast lands that live and strive around you."
The lion sets out an arrangement of decorations and other various items in demand.

List all new decors/karma-related stuff

[Will do Foul Shop later on]



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Posted on
2022-01-27 05:40:51
this is a wonderful idea



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Maro (9BO Primal
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Posted on
2022-01-27 05:41:28
Thank You :)))



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2022-02-02 06:43:14
I can suggest something?
What about you pride?

Like... The lionesses personality

If you kingdom hv more good lionesses than evil but you king is evil, maybe they can run away or make a little war or something else for the power

same thing with one Good king and evil lionesses



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Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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Posted on
2022-02-02 07:46:46
I'd suggest evaluating more on what you mean?
Having lionesses run away because they are evil personalities is not fair in general and would make a lot of lionesses useless and unable to be sold if they run away because of their personality. There is already things in place that temper with your pride depending on your kings personality, which you can view with the snakes in the crossroads.



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2022-02-02 08:00:25
I agree that lion's personalities should matter more in this game, but I wouldn't want any feature to cause lions randomly running away.
I think there could be more flavor text, depending on heir's karma level. If he does something good, lionesses with good and kind personalities would say something nice, praising him. Evil lionessess could say mean things, not appreciating heir gaining good karma.



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2022-02-02 08:07:37
Ok maybe thats not a good idea. But i think we need something with the lionesses too so i hv one new idea


Maybe the lionesses can learn with the Karma/King choises and the kings karma can change the personality ( But if the king make so many choises bad or good KARMA choises only. Like send Nature reserve or kill) when the every king choises

Example: Snarky lioness

One king kill one clanmate cub

+1 bad personality point from the pride

If we make 100 points (or something like) that lioness can make the option (stay Snarky) or swap for (Rebellious) Evil lioness



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Edited on 02/02/22 @ 08:09:11 by May (#243368)

Maro (9BO Primal
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Posted on
2022-02-02 08:10:36
This idea is more interesting :)
And if I think about it now, such karma shops I described in my suggestion could even have more things depending of how many good or evil lionesses are in our pride.



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2022-02-02 08:40:09
Good idea. Like items about the king good or bad influency in him kingdom



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Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)

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2022-02-02 11:24:18
Unsure if the staff would consider allowing us to change anyone but our kings personality, as a lionesses personality has no effect in-game without the rollover mood boost/drop depending on the KINGS personality.

It's would be used to make it so the game isn't challenging either, as if you have for example, a fatherly king, lionesses with good or king personalities get a mood boost. So, people could just change all their lionesses to good personality so they barely have to play with them (maybe every 4-5 days or so), which would ultimately defeat the purpose of the personality clashes in Your den. I cannot support that idea itself as I see no reason to mess with the lionesses personality when we don't play them.



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2022-03-09 11:53:05
I like the concept of this would be interesting that's for sure I support it :)



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2022-03-09 15:06:18
Ohh thank You!



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2022-07-16 18:29:21
I don't really like the idea of spending karma as a tangible currency, personally. I would love more explore encounters related to current karma rather than influencing karma level, though.



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2022-07-16 18:31:19
Thanks for the feedback!
My thinking was, if the karma is measured with a number, why couldn't it be like a currency!



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2022-07-16 18:35:14
All the support. This is a fantastic idea, and ummm that art is just gorgeous.



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