Posted by Karma shops and encounters!

Maro (9BO Primal
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2022-01-20 07:39:55
Hello! Today I wanted to share my idea about what else could, in my opinion be done with karma feature. Before that, I will share some thoughts about karma in general.

What are my feelings about karma in this game?

When I was a new player, I was really excited for this mechanic. Collecting karma with good deeds, and losing it with bad ones is rather common concept everyone knows, but it's not common in world of games! I used to collect it with passion, and was happy when I got a new title. Although, after discovering all of the titles and all karma encounters I noticed that the perks from being devoted to this mechanic are very little!
Today, at my 3rd year of playing, I don't even pay attention to what option I choose. Sometimes I smile to the fennec, sometimes I kill it and shrug. I am not a kind of competitive player who would want to be in game's karma leaderboards. But I would like to have a point collecting it anyway!

What I do like about karma?

I like when decisions matter! I am trying to always pick the good deed. At the beggining I really paid attention to all my decisions, and I had this little stress when I accidentally did something bad xD That was before I discovered, collecting karma doesn't offer as much as I thought it does.
I like karma backgrounds in explore and I am always smiling when I see "the world is beautiful and respects you" encounter. Literally, that's wholesome.
I like the titles, but it's too easy to collect them!

What I think could be added to the karma system?

1. More encounters that are the result of our decisions, not only encounters that are to gain or lose karma! What if we could meet a lion merchant, wouldn't it be a nice addition to explore? Old, white lion that praise us for being a good lion, and selling colorful gems. On the contrary an angry gray lion that sees us as worthy opponent and offers us black and dark colored gems...

2. My favourite concept, Karma shop!
What If we could spend the karma in some way? The amount of gained karma wouldn't be changed, like, we wouldn't lose it. The "spent" numbers would be locked, but would exist on our karma account anyway.
Example:
I gained 1000 karma, went to the karma shop, spent 500. I still have 1000 and I am a good lion, but I can only spend 500 more. The full amount only changes with my deeds!

Bad lions could have their own shop too, but they would operate on negative numbers.

What could be in a such karma shop?
Some little items, the decor that would be just created to be rather common. Like, we all have pouched rats and crows in explore and our hoards are full of scars and bloodbath backgrounds.
Items on low levels of karma shops could be as popular as them.
It could be nice earrings, claws, jewelry, little animal companions, flowers, bony decors etc...
But the more expensive items, the more unique they are. Body ornaments, rainbows, or scary body paints. Decors that would be on foreground of our lions picture, like mossy stones, but bloody for bad lions and colorfully painted for good ones. I think there can be many, many ideas!
Of course the most expensive items could be the backgrounds. These backgrounds that appear in explore when we gain the certain number of karma. I think it could be a really nice challenge to work for them. I see them as, maybe 2000 or even 5000 karma items!
Maybe the karma shops could contain some items that give some little effects for gameplay.
Grain of Paradise for really dedicated players, or Shadow of Death would fit there perfectly.

Does such karma shop have to be easy accesible?

To make items more unique, it could be something like a flood pit. Appears occasionally, shown to us by a strong shaman NPC or lost angel lion. Maybe it can be the random meeting of Manticora handsome guy?
Maybe the shop would need to have something donated to reroll items, just like boneyard in January's event?

Ideas for a neutral playstyle and Dream Shop concept for neutral players:


Ideas and stories for karma shops will be here too!
Concept for good karma NPC (drawn by me)


Thank You for reading.
I think there are many players that also think Karma is a mechanic with great potential, but it can have more options. If collecting or losing karma would have more sense, we would be more motivated and focused on our decisions. It will also make Protective and Heartless personalities more interesting and wanted! Who knows, maybe karma-only marking/skin applicators could be a thing too? Crafting recipes for good or bad lions?
Please consider my idea and tell me what do You think about it! Support if You find it interesting!

Also, everyone please remember








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Edited on 01/03/24 @ 16:03:12 by Maro (9BO Primal Scoundrel) (#167078)

Maro (9BO Primal
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2023-12-19 10:15:33
To be honest I never thought about neutral game style, because I have a feeling a game does everything to encourage us to go in good or bad karma direction, but after seeing rewards from december event (they include 3 options, good, neutral and bad karma) I started to think about some ideas for neutral karma.

1. Neutral encounters
Our character could meet some additional animals in exploring. Like I mentioned meeting a white good lion, or gray evil one, there could be an encounter like Rafiki from The Lion King. A wise character who is ready to share an interesting quote or thought and you never know if they like you or not

2. Backgrounds
In the main post I mentioned buying backgrounds with the gathered karma points. Idea for neutral players:
instead of collecting karma to buy colorful (good) or dark (bad) backgrounds, they could have a small chance of getting a random background from Monkey Business after some kind of neutral encounter.

3. Flood pit- like shop instead of karma shop
When it's wet season we meet the otter character that can scavenge items for us, and we still need to buy them for
Idea for neutral lions: instead of karma shop appearing sometimes they could have a shop connected to other little animal companions. Example:
Neutral player meets crow character in explore and the crow says he has found some random items and maybe the lion wants to see what's in the crow nest.
Then, in the crossroads, a banner like "flood pit" appears but it's "crow's nest" and we have random jewelry and dead beetles (crafting items) or things like malachite sunbird feathers to buy (I think they are too rare item in game and we should have some more sources to get them somehow).
Such shop could be open for a player and close with the next rollover.



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Edited on 19/12/23 @ 10:22:18 by Maro (#167078)

Tensa Zangetsu (#447419)

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2023-12-19 21:20:45
Karma shops are a good idea!!



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2024-03-01 09:31:42
No support. What if people play a neutral style? Lioden should just be focused on your own path, not items in a shop.

I do like the idea of more encounters though. So half support maybe?



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2024-03-01 09:40:08
I added my ideas for neutral play style 2 posts above! Thank you for reading the main post anyway!



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Edited on 01/03/24 @ 09:40:30 by Maro (9BO Primal Scoundrel) (#167078)

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2024-03-01 09:41:42
Yeah, I still don't really like it. If u play neutral you just get crafting items and if you play good/evil you get actual prizes. It's not a fair trade off



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2024-03-01 09:44:45
How do you think the neutral style could give more actual prizes?
There's still place for adjustments :D



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Maro (9BO Primal
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2024-03-01 15:49:21
Concept for neutral shop with better items:

Dream shop

Your lion sleeps peacefully, knowing it's always true to its nature. Unbothered by the need to act, it can't be judged as good or bad. And that's perfectly fine!

Recently, an unusual lion has begun appearing in its dreams. This whimsical and mysterious creature is a ghost lion, though its exact form remains elusive. Every time you look at it, its appearance shifts. One moment it might resemble you, the next, it could have angelic wings or resemble a manticore. It claims to be a vendor who travels between worlds and offers you a chance to see its wares.


And now there are 2 options, he's offering random items from good or bad karma shops, but the value is silver beetles, or he has his own unique shops. I imagine these items styles would generally refer to themes of mist/seasons/day and night cycle (my favourite).

I will come up with some better ideas in the future! This concept was inspired by the begining of June storyline and this character (?)





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Edited on 01/03/24 @ 15:52:17 by Maro (9BO Primal Scoundrel) (#167078)







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