Posted by [100+] Item to Visually Hide Mutations

🌈CC✨ -Autistic
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Posted on
2023-12-20 12:17:57
I can already feel the "No Support" on this one, but hear me out!

I have a lightly decorated king, who is labfrogged and posed. With the announcement of Jaglions, I figured it would be a good time to look at heritage repping and adding a MoD. However, I remembered that if I use a patch or pie MoD I will be losing 5% of my possible mutation rolls with items ... so I figured I'd just buy a primal mutation. The event for them is only a month away, right?

And then I looked at my king in wardrobe with the mutation on... YIKES. #NotMyBoy <- clicky link to show what I mean.

None of the possible stages look any better, since the decor was not made in mind for mutations, and that's okay!

So, I figured that I would suggest and item that allows us to use the normal lineart for our lions. Like the Lab Test Frog, this would be a simple lineart change and could be used with other pose/lineart items, and could be removed at any point from the lion.

1. This is NOT a suggestion to replace CD, as many people enjoy the visual mutations, myself included! I just don't want to have to choose between having my king looking like I imagine my king, or gaining profit from primal variants.

2. This would not create massive strain on the artists, as the code and art is already mostly done.

3. Yes, people could use this to lie and cheat, but they can use anything in this game to lie and cheat including the "fake hybrid" thing. It is your job to check trades.

"Perhaps, just to give players a heads up, there could be a little header above the lions image stating they have an item used that hides their mutation. Similar to dorsal fur boosts and such." - Bluebee [10xRos | 20xBO | G1] (#263841)

Please offer constructive feedback so I can adjust my suggestion or answer your questions. TIA!



This suggestion has 125 supports and 11 NO supports.



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Edited on 18/03/24 @ 16:16:47 by 🌈CC✨ -Autistic BO Breeder- (#438339)

snowmew [G1 14BO
Abyssinian] (#63212)


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Posted on
2023-12-20 12:51:15
support. idk why people are against it.
we have items to switch poses for male/female and cub stages, why not mutie to normal poses?
no one needs to use it if they dont want to.
it eliminates the pressure of converting decor to fit primals and other muties.
what would anyone gain from trying to sell a mutie that looks like a regular lion? if anything that would make its value lower, making no sense.



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Bluebell [10xRos |
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Posted on
2023-12-20 13:21:48
The reason I made a jellyfish decor was for this reason exactly. I want a primal king for mutation chances but he looks terrible! I enjoyed posing and decorating him which would also not be possible with a primal mutation.

Perhaps, just to give players a heads up, there could be a little header above the lions image stating they have an item used that hides their mutation. Similar to dorsal fur boosts and such.



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🌈CC✨ -Autistic
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Posted on
2023-12-20 13:24:10
I love the banner idea! I'd actually like that on ALL lions that can naturally pass a mutation so there's no confusion, but I'll add it to this suggestion.



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TEᖇS [2/40] (#412633)

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Posted on
2023-12-21 18:56:10
I'd love this! THe main reason my last king had a tiger eye was cuz adult male primal just doesn't look great to me (no shade to the artists, just a personal choice), and I'd love to be able to have my king be a primal, but not look like a primal!



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Maro (9BO Primal
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Posted on
2023-12-21 20:42:47
The good thing is they will be working at making decors compatible with primal variants. I don't know what to think about this idea, for decor purposes it sounds okay but it may be really confusing for people who breed to such kings and also it erases the purpose of mutation...hmm



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🌈CC✨ -Autistic
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Posted on
2023-12-21 20:45:53
The issue for me, personally, is not that the decors are not compatable, but instead that it is not how I want my king to present. He is feminine, and flirtatious, so being a big growly primal isn't how I want him to look.

As for the purpose of a mutation, people tend to pick whatever is more expensive/rare regardless of their opinion of it (such as ticked, which I've seen quite a few people say they like but refuse to use because of it's low value). You also would not be forced to hide your mutation, just like you are not forced to use an item such as Lab Frog on your lions.

Just my two cents!



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Edited on 21/12/23 @ 20:47:56 by 🌈CC✨ -Autistic BO Breeder- (#438339)

Ducksmn 🐥🐥| g1
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Posted on
2023-12-24 18:48:00
Yes please 😭 the pain of scrambling to find decor that fits your king was atrocious



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Archeologhost (#19753)

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Posted on
2024-01-17 21:28:53
PLEASE. Primals have almost zero body decor that actually works on them - even a lot of the newer released decor doesn't fit on primals. I know the artists have been working on making more decors fit them, but primals were released back in January of 2017 and not much progress has been made TwT;; I just want to decorate my silly little pixel lions.



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Noisy🐤 (#373504)


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Posted on
2024-01-18 16:50:18
Would "temporarily hide decors" work on this one and reveal the mutation, or would it stay hidden like a lab test frog?



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🌈CC✨ -Autistic
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Posted on
2024-01-18 19:20:54
It would be up to the devs. I can see pros and cons for either side of that and I personally am neutral on it.



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PaulDragonDemon (#225842)


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2024-02-10 07:17:31
I can genuinely see the pros and cons, i had a primal king myself and was frustrated on the lack of decor as well. I think this is an issue that would be better fixed with requestion editable positions/placement of decor, or just make the decor to fit primals as a whole, like theres for other lioness poses
Personally hiding the whole mutation for this ruins the fun for me, since if i have a mutated king id kinda want to see them
Thats for me tho! I can kinda see the appeal in this kind of item



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Leomel0n.2||Snail
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Posted on
2024-03-12 10:38:51
Mega support.
I want a dorsal fur king but I dislike that it's non posable- It's not that I dislike the default pose but i'd like to give my king more character with other poses. With an item that hides mutations, I could lab frog and apply a pose. Then I'd add a CD of the dorsal fur!



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[All mut
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Posted on
2024-04-23 06:14:23
Honestly, no support. A lot of people's issues are with primals (which is understandable cuz I'm not too fond of adult primals lmao) But they are adding poses, so I would wait for those. But for now no support.



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Posted on
2024-04-23 10:13:28
@[All mut pride]Barnashunter12 (#226934) They've been "adding poses" for 8 years now. I understand that they have more artists now, but even if they are eventually added I may not prefer them.



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