Posted by Cracking The Rosette Code?

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Posted on
2017-05-24 15:44:52
According to the Wiki,
"Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked."

This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked").


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Exhibit A:
Cream Rosette

Mother was chased, but had the following:
Base: Cream (White Nose)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Brown
Eye Color: Grey
Slot 1: Onyx Ripple
Slot 2: Chocolate Top
Slot 6: Feline 7 Black

Dad had the following:
Base: Silver Grey (White Nose)
Mane Type: Sideburn
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Lavender
Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown
Slot 2: White Tips
Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 8: White Undercoat
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Onyx Lace
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Exhibit B:
Gold Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Pink
Slot 1: Brown Mask
Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx

Dad had the following:
Base: Blush Rose (White Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Manakbir
Eye Color: Peach
Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger
Slot 2: Feline 1 Black
Slot 3: Rose Pelage
Slot 4: Maroon Pelage
Slot 5: Onyx Lace
Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver
Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger
Slot 8: White Panther
Slot 9: Under White 4
Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx
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Exhibit C:
Brown Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dun (White Nose)
Mane Type: Tsavo
Mane Color: Maroon
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: White Cobweb
Slot 6: Vitiligo 3
Slot 7: Vitiligo 2
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4

Dad had the Following:
Base: Onyx (Brown Nose)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Unholy
Eye Color: Saffron
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx

Do you see a pattern?
I do.
Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking.
See it?
Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare.

Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)




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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180)

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Posted on
2023-01-09 18:57:09
Soooo I'm wondering if this is relevant or not.. I have a slow internet connection a lot of the time when I play (I play solely on mobile) and I've noticed that sometimes as a lion's textures load one by one, some of them have a spotty pattern underneath their markings even though they don't have any spotty markings? I've also noticed it on cubs but thinking maybe that's just because cubs have spots irl.

Idk maybe I'm just crazy 😂



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Posted on
2023-01-10 20:18:28
Bookmarking this. I'll be sure to record every single breeding that has resulted in a rosette and share the info on here!



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Posted on
2023-01-12 09:25:05
I had a cub born with a random slot 1 Rosette!
Her markings are:
Slot 1: Goridhe Heavy Rosette (83%)
Slot 2: Golden Tail (29%)
Slot 3: Under Silky 4 (5%)
Slot 7: Brown Low Flow (28%)
Slot 8: Under Silky 1 (9%)
Slot 9: Clay Cowl (20%)
Slot 10: Cimmerian Saddle (21%)

Mom is:
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx (19%)
Slot 5: White Inverted Cheetah (47%)

Stud doesn't have any feline markings, or really any cat markings at all:
Slot 2: Golden Tail (78%)
Slot 3: Under Silky 4 (20%)
Slot 5: Chert Coat (29%)
Slot 7: Brown Low Flow (40%)
Slot 8: Under Silky 1 (11%)
Slot 9: Clay Cowl (43%)
Slot 10: Cimmerian Saddle (23%)



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Rin (#361240)

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Posted on
2023-01-14 03:11:11
I got another spontaneous rosette cub from my Queen :3

The cub (female)
Base: Black (black skin)
Genetics: Black Dark Countershaded Common
Eyes: tan
Mane: Royal Elysian
Stats at birth: 199
Personality: Distrustful (evil)

Markings:
Slot 2: Cherry Snuggle (47%)
Slot 5: Scoundrel Pelage (32%)
Slot 7: Haliotis Reverse Vitiligo Mash (43%)
Slot 8: Leonid Feline (19%)
Slot 9: Red Heavy Rosette (78%)
Slot 10: Celestial Speckles (5%)

The mother

Current age: 4 years and 8 months
Base: Obsidian (black skin)
Genetics: Black Dark Solid Common
Mutation: none
Eyes: sandy
Mane: Hellriser Elysian
Fertility: Very Low (38%)
Current stats: 272
Personality: Lazy (Snarky)

Markings:
Slot 6: Onyx Patch (9%)
Slot 7: Haliotis Reverse Vitiligo Mash (84%)

The father
Current age: 6 years and 9 months
Base: Blue Poinsettia (Gray Skin)
Genetics: Black Medium Countershaded Special
Mutation: Piebald (natural)
Eyes: pink
Mane: Maroon Barbary
Current stats: 751
Current karma: 305
Current impression: Dreamboat
Personality: Unscrupulous (Evil)

Markings:
Slot 1: White Web (37%)
Slot 2: Cherry Snuggle (99%)
Slot 3: White English Spots (87%)
Slot 5: Scoundrel Pelage (43%)
Slot 8: Leonid Feline (22%)
Slot 10: Celestial Speckles (27%)



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Edited on 14/01/23 @ 03:13:14 by Rin (Clean Blue Poins. Pie) (#361240)

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Posted on
2023-01-18 03:06:35
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794182672101
Hey! Just thought I'd say, I found a rosette without a feline marking on their mother or father



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Posted on
2023-01-19 09:35:09
Dad:


Mom:


Rosette Cub:



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Posted on
2023-01-19 09:39:58
@249436
Dad has Pulsar Cheerah so it could be feline-relared instead of just feline markings



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Posted on
2023-01-19 16:12:25
Probably different Criteria for different rosette markings?



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Rhys (they/them) (#243164)

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Posted on
2023-02-02 19:14:17
This is pretty interesting! I'll post my two random rosettes from my one Chased lioness.

Passed Rosettes are underlined.
Random Rosettes are bold.
Added Markings are striked.

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Offspring 1
Doubloon Soft Rosette
Slot 2: Frostbitten Dapple (100%)
*Slot 3: Doubloon Soft Rosette (100%)
Slot 4: Cream Mottled Vents (86%)
Slot 5: White Panther (100%)
Slot 6: Black Back Hair (76%)
Slot 7: Hyena Spots Scarce Ginger (100%)

Slot 8: White Freckles 3 (51%)
Slot 9: Almond Inverted Zebra (100%)

Mom
Slot 1: Bone Soft Unders (54%)
Slot 2: Ginger Freckles 1 (58%)
Slot 7: Classic Royal Front (33%)
Slot 9: Almond Inverted Zebra (56%)

Dad
Slot 2: Under Cream 5 (100%)
*Slot 3: Dark Brown Cheetah Heavy (100%)
Slot 4: Chert Smudge (100%)
Slot 5: Chocolate Siamese (84%)
Slot 6: Chocolate Wisp (100%)
Slot 8: White Freckles 3 (100%)


Offspring 2
Dark Brown Soft Rosette
Slot 3: Cimmerian Paws (100%)
*Slot 4: Dark Brown Soft Rosette (100%)
Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%)
Slot 7: Nimravus Gold (45%)
Slot 8: Cimmerian Saddle (10%)
Slot 9: Tail Banding Noctis (100%)

Mom
Slot 1: Bone Soft Unders (54%)
Slot 2: Ginger Freckles 1 (58%)
Slot 7: Classic Royal Front (33%)
Slot 9: Almond Inverted Zebra (56%)

Dad
Slot 1: White Underfelt (100%)
Slot 2: Darken Cimmerian (100%)
Slot 3: Cimmerian Paws (100%)
Slot 4: Noctis Zebra (50%)
Slot 5: Cream Half (48%)
Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%)
Slot 7: Nimravus Gold (70%)
Slot 8: Cimmerian Saddle (40%)
Slot 9: Tail Banding Noctis (100%)
*Slot 10: Saffron Inverted Cheetah (100%)

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Both dads have some sort of Cheetah marking, and both offspring have Soft Rosettes. Coincidence?

[Edit]
@249436: Interesting, the lion you posted also has Soft Rosette, and one of the parents has a cheetah marking.



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Edited on 02/02/23 @ 19:21:03 by Rhys (they/them) (#243164)

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Posted on
2023-02-02 19:33:03
Soft rosettes have cheetah marking parents?? O-o ??



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Posted on
2023-02-02 19:45:25
@249436: That's my current theory! Going through some older discussions about when the Soft Rosette Markings were first released, it was mentioned that Xylax stated in the news that he was "inspired" by the then-current rosette passing theories.

There's a spreadsheet someone put together that I'm going through right now with all the confirmed random Heavy and Soft Rosette cubs and their parents. Not all have Cheetah marking parents, but Feline type markings are overwhelmingly present.

[Edit]
Ooh, interesting! According to THIS spreadsheet, every Soft Rosette cub (that was posted) had at least one parent with an Unders marking, and Heavy Rosette cubs had a Belly or Under White parent...



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Edited on 02/02/23 @ 20:00:45 by Rhys (they/them) (#243164)

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Posted on
2023-02-04 03:38:20
Rhys, I've got 2 heavy rosettes from my Queen, but neither of their parents have belly or under markings (I mean only the mother of the first one has an hidden marking that might be an under, but it's hidden).
The father has a leonid feline marking tho, idk if that's the one that produced the rosettes.

the first one (mother with hidden under marking)

the second one (no under or belly markings)



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Edited on 04/02/23 @ 03:40:08 by Rin (Clean Blue Poins. Pie) (#361240)

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Posted on
2023-02-04 07:13:12
@Rin: So I checked the hidden marking on the mom of the Auburn Heavy Rosette, and it is Under White 3 (Slot 11), which fits the theory for Heavy Rosette.

But the Red Heavy one, darn. Probably is the feline marks then. Or some marking combo that we don't have a large enough sample size to puzzle out. I'd be tempted to look at the grandparents too, but it's already been stated by developers that only the parents matter when it comes to random rosettes.

I might make my own spreadsheet to track examples...



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Posted on
2023-02-11 08:57:44
My king popped a random Rosette the other day, he has feline 9 elysian, and the baby got a ginger heavy rosette



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Posted on
2023-02-11 09:40:44
On page 8, it's revealed that I had a Slot 12 Doubloon Soft Rosette. Neither parent had Pulsar/cheetah marks. Copy and repasted.. * means those are the feline-related marks

Mom:
Slot 1: Ragdoll English Spots (98%)
Slot 2: Ragdoll Siamese (82%)*
Slot 3: Ragdoll Indri (50%)
Slot 7: Angelic Ghost Feralis (44%)
Slot 8: Sunset Siamese (69%)*
Slot 10: Auburn Thrashed Chest (65%)

Dad:
Slot 1: Feline 9 Dark Brown (100%)*
Slot 2: Vitiligo 8 (53%)
Slot 3: Cream Lace (83%)
Slot 4: Coral Lace (71%)
Slot 5: Vitiligo 9 (60%)
Slot 6: Coral Soft Unders (57%)
Slot 8: White Underfelt (73%)
Slot 10: Shell Underfelt (87%)

Cub: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794171111523
You drop 150 silver beetles before the scrying stone.. And the markings are revealed to be... Doubloon Soft Rosette (Slot 12).



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Edited on 11/02/23 @ 09:44:46 by Lukuro | G2 Onyx Tovero RLC (#229613)







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