Posted by Cracking The Rosette Code?

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2017-05-24 15:44:52
According to the Wiki,
"Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked."

This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked").


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Exhibit A:
Cream Rosette

Mother was chased, but had the following:
Base: Cream (White Nose)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Brown
Eye Color: Grey
Slot 1: Onyx Ripple
Slot 2: Chocolate Top
Slot 6: Feline 7 Black

Dad had the following:
Base: Silver Grey (White Nose)
Mane Type: Sideburn
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Lavender
Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown
Slot 2: White Tips
Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 8: White Undercoat
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Onyx Lace
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Exhibit B:
Gold Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Pink
Slot 1: Brown Mask
Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx

Dad had the following:
Base: Blush Rose (White Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Manakbir
Eye Color: Peach
Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger
Slot 2: Feline 1 Black
Slot 3: Rose Pelage
Slot 4: Maroon Pelage
Slot 5: Onyx Lace
Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver
Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger
Slot 8: White Panther
Slot 9: Under White 4
Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx
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Exhibit C:
Brown Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dun (White Nose)
Mane Type: Tsavo
Mane Color: Maroon
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: White Cobweb
Slot 6: Vitiligo 3
Slot 7: Vitiligo 2
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4

Dad had the Following:
Base: Onyx (Brown Nose)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Unholy
Eye Color: Saffron
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx

Do you see a pattern?
I do.
Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking.
See it?
Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare.

Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)




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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180)

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Posted on
2024-03-14 05:02:04
the feline markings are sure intresting



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Lucas | G1 Noctis
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Posted on
2024-03-14 05:38:25
Also need to update my list of roses lol

S20 Fiery Heavy Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214064972

Mother-
Slot 1: Blue Indri (23%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Dorsal Line (92%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Ukame Undercover (66%) Tier 3
Slot 4: Vitiligo 5 (52%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Bandit Unders (39%) Tier 3
Slot 7: Feline 5 Lilac (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: Quartz Underfelt (98%) Tier 2
Slot 10: White Rims (73%) Tier 2

Father-
Slot 1: Blue Indri (40%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Dorsal Line (100%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Ukame Undercover (80%) Tier 3
Slot 4: Vitiligo 5 (70%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Bandit Unders (50%) Tier 3
Slot 6: Quartz Rims (100%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Feline 5 Lilac (80%) Tier 2
Slot 8: Quartz Underfelt (100%) Tier 2
Slot 9: Blue Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 10: White Rims (80%) Tier 2

S7 Briar Shaded Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177575

Mother-
Slot 2: Brown Back Hair (20%) Tier 0

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S8 Inverted Soft Rosette Saffron


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794206414689

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%)
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%)
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%)
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%)
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%)
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%)
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%)
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%)
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%)
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%)

S9 Fiery Inverted Shaded Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177683

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S6 Gold Inverted Shaded Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794209115429

Mother-
Slot 2: Sunset Lace (51%) Tier 3
Slot 7: White Lace (38%) Tier 2
Slot 8: Rhino Feline (23%) Tier 3
Slot 9: Dim Noctis (21%) Tier 2
Slot 10: Ukame Feralis (21%) Tier 3

Father-
Slot 1: Dawn Margay (41%)
Slot 2: Under White 1 (47%)
Slot 3: Dawn Flare (100%)
Slot 4: Dawn Valiant (52%)
Slot 5: Cimmerian Shepherd (60%)
Slot 6: Henna Cheetah Soft (67%)
Slot 7: Ginger Indri (17%)
Slot 8: Under Silky 2 (56%)
Slot 10: Dark Brown Quarter Spotting (35%)

S5 Ginger Heavy Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794207738126

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%)
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%)
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%)
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%)
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%)
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%)
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%)
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%)
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%)
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%)

S10 Noctis Heavy Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794207742023

Mother-
[Deleted] [Known Mark: Dawn Margay]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%)
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%)
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%)
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%)
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%)
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%)
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%)
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%)
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%)
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%)

S5 Seal Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794208079626

Mother-
[Deleted] [Known mark: DHR]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) Tier 2

S9 Fiery Soft Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794208462568

Mother-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (29%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (39%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (38%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (50%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (39%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Under Silky 2 (81%) Tier 0

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) Tier 2

S3 Dark Brown Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794209494602

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Dawn Margay (41%)
Slot 2: Under White 1 (47%)
Slot 3: Dawn Flare (100%)
Slot 4: Dawn Valiant (52%)
Slot 5: Cimmerian Shepherd (60%)
Slot 6: Henna Cheetah Soft (67%)
Slot 7: Ginger Indri (17%)
Slot 8: Under Silky 2 (56%)
Slot 10: Dark Brown Quarter Spotting (35%)

S1 Gold Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794209049259

Mother-
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (71%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (55%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (62%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (68%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (50%) Tier 1

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) Tier 2

S6 Briar Heavy Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215067959
March 17

Mother-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (42%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (18%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (43%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (27%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (41%) Tier 2

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S7 White Inverted Shaded Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215196488
March 17

Mother-
Slot 1: Cherry Rugged Unders (54%) Tier 3
Slot 3: Celestial Shine (56%) Tier 3
Slot 7: White Brindle (36%) Tier 1

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S6 Brown Rosette


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215199623
March 17, 2024

Mother-
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (44%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (34%) Tier 2
Slot 9: Algae Coat (27%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (40%) Tier 2

Father-
Slot 1: Scoundrel Undersides (100%) Tier 3
Slot 2: Vitiligo 1 (70%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Vitiligo 5 (60%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Bone Underfelt (100%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Cherry Inverted Cover (40%) Tier 3
Slot 6: Briar Crackle (40%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Briar Freckles 1 (100%) Tier 2
Slot 8: Coral Soft Unders (50%) Tier 2
Slot 9: Scoundrel Feline (100%) Tier 3
Slot 10: Under White 3 (100%) Tier 0



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Edited on 17/03/24 @ 04:14:29 by Lucas | G1 Noctis Neb. M-RLC (#229229)

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Posted on
2024-03-14 05:58:18
I'm beginning to suspect that marking slot does matter, considering its correlating to a marking you could reasonbly suspect to be on an IRL cat. I'm gonna check the random rosettes my kings have sired and see if the pattern continues

Okay, the ginger rosette got killed so I couldn't check but the fiery inverted soft was in slot one, where the sire (my prev king) had a feline mark



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Edited on 14/03/24 @ 06:00:31 by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ᗷᑌTTEᖇᖴᒪY EᖴᖴEᑕT (#412633)

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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:04:23
marking slot does certainly matter for the ones that seemingly only appear when there's a cat/feline/lace mark



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:05:12
For mine, it seems like random slots. S20 was a Slot that neither parent had, not even s11

S7 was Lilac Crackle

S8 was white facial 1

S9 was white ear spots (a tiger marking?)

S6 was Henna Cheetah Soft which appears to be the only one so far of mine that even seems like a possibility of same slot. And this is before I edit my little list of them to include my side randoms



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:06:11
what was the rosette that appeared? it might've been one of the ones that (according to the news) "can show up in any breeding"

it's probably a more common one like ebony soft or noctis heavy



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:06:24
Looking at it, I do think heavy has different requirements then inverted and shaded/soft, as heavies do seem to just.. Happen.. with no markings in the slot it would overtake



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Lucas | G1 Noctis
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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:09:15
Edited my List of rosettes to include my side account. So far, no real correlation of anything besides mark *type*



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:12:20
hmm
i think the feline associated ones can appear in any slot based on what i've seen


also, have you noticed that feline 9 looks a lot like a shaded rosette???



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:14:20
Do you mean panther? And that's because it's a similar marking based off of Rosette cats



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:18:47
no, that one too but just the way feline 9 is shaded like a shaded rosette
might be no correlation, but it's interesting



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:28:56
Feline 9 is a Feline marking so if cat markings are part of the criteria, that's why. Not because it's shaded the same way



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:34:15
And i dont really see how theyre shaded the same?





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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:37:08
I think they mean the overlays between the darker edges in both?



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Posted on
2024-03-14 06:40:24
Ah well I mean that's most likely just because that's how the markings are. Like how Lace and Panther look like off-brand roses, that's just how they designed em



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