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| Posted by | Cracking The Rosette Code? |
 🌾 faerie {lethal lover} (#112180) 
View Forum Posts  Posted on 2017-05-24 15:44:52 |
According to the Wiki, "Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked." This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked"). ----- Exhibit A: Cream Rosette Mother was chased, but had the following: Base: Cream (White Nose) Mane Type: Normal Mane Color: Brown Eye Color: Grey Slot 1: Onyx Ripple Slot 2: Chocolate Top Slot 6: Feline 7 Black Dad had the following: Base: Silver Grey (White Nose) Mane Type: Sideburn Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Lavender Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown Slot 2: White Tips Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 8: White Undercoat Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Onyx Lace ----- Exhibit B: Gold Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Pink Slot 1: Brown Mask Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Dad had the following: Base: Blush Rose (White Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Manakbir Eye Color: Peach Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger Slot 2: Feline 1 Black Slot 3: Rose Pelage Slot 4: Maroon Pelage Slot 5: Onyx Lace Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger Slot 8: White Panther Slot 9: Under White 4 Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx ----- Exhibit C: Brown Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dun (White Nose) Mane Type: Tsavo Mane Color: Maroon Eye Color: White Slot 1: White Cobweb Slot 6: Vitiligo 3 Slot 7: Vitiligo 2 Slot 9: Vitiligo 4 Dad had the Following: Base: Onyx (Brown Nose) Mane Type: Savage Mane Color: Unholy Eye Color: Saffron Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx Do you see a pattern? I do. Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking. See it? Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare. Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)  3 players like this post! Like? Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180) |
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neb 𖤐 g2 leo murky (#434371) Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 06:41:58 |
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Lightning (g1 lilac patches) (#232326) King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 10:24:26 |
I had a random rosette being bone inverted rossette in slot 5 Mother has markings in: Slot 9: Marigold Vesture (63%) Tier Father has markings in: Slot 1: Quartz Rims (100%) Tier 2 Slot 2: Onyx Dorsal Line (100%) Tier 2 Slot 3: White Panther (100%) Tier 3 Slot 4: Quartz Lace (30%) Tier 2 Slot 5: Feline 2 Lilac (40%) Tier 2 Slot 6: Onyx Margay (100%) Tier 2 Slot 7: Feline 9 Lilac (50%) Tier 2 Slot 8: Cimmerian Crackle (50%) Tier 2 Slot 9: Noctis Rogue (50%) Tier 2 Slot 10: White Underfelt (100%) Tier 2 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zaba (#296262)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 13:51:05 |
Hey guys, just wanted to update this as my research progresses. it seems clear that: You have a 1/300 chance to breed ANY random rosette (though it may exclude soft and shaded) But if your king meets certain criteria, you get a SECOND 1/300 roll for whatever that criteria can get you. so essentially, there's a 1/2 chance the random rosette a king pops out is related to no factors whatsoever. But the other half is dictated by some trait. this is evident in every single test, half the rosettes make no sense but the other half follows a strict pattern. That might be what's been to elusive about them, throwing off so many people. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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neb 𖤐 g2 leo murky (#434371) Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 13:52:38 |
huh!!! that makes so much sense wtf so leopard tails (if i'm interpreting properly, idk it was quite vague) will provide a 5% boost, but is that for ALL of them, or just the ones with criteria 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zaba (#296262)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 13:58:16 |
We will have to find out when it comes out! The post did hint that the strange inheritance pattern plays a big role in the item, so I'm gonna say it affects everything. I'll keep crunching some numbers, it would be incredible to figure out just how to dictate the slot, color, and type in time. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Lucas | G1 Noctis Neb. M-RLC (#229229) Punk View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 14:22:29 |
so kinda like crunchy albino? if you crunchy an albino, you have a chance of an albino. but you get a second chance at albino if crunchy failed by simply breeding your crunchied lion to another? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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neb 𖤐 g2 leo murky (#434371) Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 14:24:05 |
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AlexCorvid[Once upon a Child] (#416170) Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 14:24:49 |
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neb 𖤐 g2 leo murky (#434371) Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 14:25:37 |
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Zaba (#296262)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 14:29:12 |
Not sure how that works, but more like two ochre powers. Your king automatically has a 'ochre power' so you have a 1/300 chance of getting a rosette cub of any type. If your king meets a second criteria, you get a second ochre powder! SO another 1/300 roll, except this roll is tied to a certain rosette shape. The original ochre powder doesn't just disappear, so you have the underlying 1/300 roll chance for any rosette type still. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zaba (#296262)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-14 22:02:28 |
To everyone on this thread, I did some more testing and confirmed the following: NO CRITERIA: heavy, all inverted, rosette CRITERA: shaded, soft Heavy and heavy inverted can be boosted using feline, but they can show up in any breeding Shaded MUST have a mane marking Soft MUST have an unders marking Everything is doubled checked now. The mane marking is a wild one, because if your king doesn't have the mane marking, then it was likely from the NCL mom who gave the rosette to the cub 2 players like this post! Like? |
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Datrandomcat (#166891)
Aztec Knight View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 00:44:28 |
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214052916 I had this cub born that I never checked, and they had a random auburn rosette Mother had a bandit unders marking and father had mottled rosette- that seems to check out! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Lucas | G1 Noctis Neb. M-RLC (#229229) Punk View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 01:10:35 |
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Sun (#233448)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 02:33:23 |
In the case it helps, I just got a total random rosette in one of my litters, the mother has no markings, but the father is a 3x rosette. What is strage is that the cub got a seal rosette (which the father doesnt have) in a slot in which neither parent got a rosette, and its even occupied by the father already. Cubby: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214896638 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Rosalind | 12/15 Bandit NRLC (#179562) Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 03:33:20 |
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