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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-01-31 16:39:31
My Citrine king hasn't given Citrine cubs with my own factor based lionesses (my side account). He is 9 years, 6 months old, and was never stat replaced after being kinged, so that base is a true age. (Not sure about others that used him for stud service.)


My Ice king has given me 2 cairngorm lionesses from cocoa lionesses, but neither of the cairngorm girls have given cairngorm offspring... they are 9 years, 2 months old & 5 years, 4 months old. (my main account).



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Edited on 31/01/18 @ 16:40:58 by muttduck (#78)

Juminakata (River) (#6903)

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2018-01-31 16:41:49
Super happy i decided against a cairn king after marlaik expires now, damn. Was so willing to pour in some gb on a nice cairn boy.



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-01-31 16:45:55
To be honest, I love my Citrine king, and put loads into customizing him...
... but I have a gorgeous Clouded Pie that would be stunning with a Cherry Blossom base, and I've been tempted...
... but the Citrine has Choco Freckles 12&3, and I don't want to waste all that event effort that it took to get those, either.



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2018-02-04 12:22:19
I'm holding off kinging my madagascar on my main until I see any of the combo bases actually pass.



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Nureyev 🦆 (#30674)

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2018-02-04 12:47:27
I don't blame you Snowcat...and it's a shame cause your Maddy boy is brilliant.



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Celebii [Clean Nat
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2018-02-04 14:43:32
I'll admit I'm a bit pissy now, too.
Especially since I *know* Baroness is aware of this issue, she answered my modbox ticked and took a look at the bug thread to tell me it looked alright, and the thread still isn't marked as forwarded.
How long can it take to patch them back in? I mean, it apparently didn't take long to take combo bases out of the scrying stone (and breeding[???]), whoever's [grammar?] decision that was anyway, so what are they waiting for? Right now, I can sell my madagascar cubs for 15gb but who knows for how long that will last once people start to notice how completely and utterly useless they are. Nobody needs to tell me about low rates, even the July bases would pass easier that the combo bases apparently, and that doesn't seem realistic to me.

I think I'll create another ticket asking for an update and providing the additional information I've gathered from the bug thread and this one, because as muttduck said, this bug is way too expensive to not get fixed for 3+ weeks.



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-04 14:49:39
Since this has gone no where, I've made the decision to work on a Cherry Blossom replacement for my Citrine. If they fix the bug in the next "5+ years" then I may decide to keep the Citrine looks... but I am losing hope quickly, and my back up plan turns 2 tomorrow, so I couldn't wait any longer on changing the gender to male.



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Thalath {Offline} (#41669)

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2018-02-04 14:55:21
"this bug is way too expensive to not get fixed for 3+ weeks."

I mean, raffles are still busted and have been for like, a year now. I just had one end today and I didn't get anything for it.

Last I recall the combo bases aren't supposed to pass at all (which is dumb) so I don't get why the suddenly claimed they can



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Snowcat14-G1 4.8.22
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2018-02-04 15:04:44
So I decided to play with scrying stone with one of my maddie girls and a maddie stud
794114423830 and 30674
Sorry I have no idea how to post it, but I actually got a madagascar in the stone after about 40 tries.



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-02-04 15:05:57
Wait, where did you read they aren't supposed to pass at all? The News post says they can, and the admins said they can too. If they weren't supposed to pass at all that would explain the problem at hand, but it wouldn't make sense to have us believe the opposite.



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Thalath {Offline} (#41669)

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2018-02-04 15:07:43
Oh, I see it

"Edit: Combo bases can pass if they meet combo criteria, ie. Cairngorm needs at least one of the 8 listed bases to be parent 2."

It originally didn't say this, making it really ambiguous whether or not the bases could pass (we assumed they couldn't)

It sounds like it's completely FUBAR and not working properly

The fact that the base won't pass without parent 2 having one of the factor bases is extremely stupid anyway bt w/e



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Edited on 04/02/18 @ 15:10:41 by Thalath💞 (#41669)

Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-02-04 15:18:08
Snowcat, you were right!
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I managed to get a cairngorm cub with two cairngorm parents.
Now we've only got to wait if breeding has been fixed too...



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Edited on 04/02/18 @ 15:26:23 by Grovyle [Sunset Patches] (#94985)

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Posted on
2018-02-04 15:33:51
We tried like 500 times altogether before right? So maybe it has been fixed. One can hope.
So glad you got one too. Yay!!
I probably will king my boy soon then. Just trying to make some more unholy girls with the one I have now first.



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Nureyev 🦆 (#30674)

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2018-02-04 18:00:49
Hmmm. So combo x combo is working (at least in the scrying stone). Has anyone retested combo x factor? Last time I did 250 scrys with zero combo cubs but that was a couple weeks ago.



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Grovyle (#94985)

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Posted on
2018-02-16 13:30:04
Can we add combo manes here, too? If yes, here's what produces Royal so far, identified by chat:

Sideburn x Thick
Barbary x Thick



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Edited on 16/02/18 @ 13:32:51 by Grovyle [Sunset Patches] (#94985)







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