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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2018-02-16 16:31:01
Thanks for cleaning that up. But sad guys how it seem like combs are waisted seen they don`t pass to cub? There are like base version of contact linses.



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Edited on 16/02/18 @ 16:32:30 by Wenduo (#107963)

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2018-02-16 16:32:44
@Wenduo they SHOULD be able to pass to cubs. Right now they don't but I sent in a ticket and hopefully [hah] the problem will be solved. Soon-ish?



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2018-02-16 16:34:49
They are *supposed* to pass. The evidence strongly suggests a bug is preventing it.



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Wénduō
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Posted on
2018-02-16 17:09:17
It is odd seen how long since they arrived on game?



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-17 00:15:33
So now combo bases were supposed to only pass when bred to another combo base? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, especially when it was explicitly stated in the news it would work like combo x factor, a *moderator* said only combo x factor should pass, Baroness then explained it's combo x factor and combo x combo, and now Kitty says *only* combo x combo was meant to pass? Everyone is contradicting each other.
At least Kitty said it was a "good idea" [that we got from the news post] to make it work like that and it'll be fixed within the week.



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2018-02-17 02:55:11
Hey, but at least it will be implemented in a week! That's good, right? Kind of a bummer for those that wasted resources in the scrying stone or breedings to get them, though



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-17 05:43:48
It's not even a small waste.
For my side, it's 15 weeks of breeding a Combo king, to my girls, and to outside studding.
Plus, investing in buying/breeding all of his factoring lionesses.
And, the entire November Event, where I worked to add several exclusive markings to him...

I want to keep him, and knowing Kitty is on it, makes me hopeful again...
But, This Guy has been groomed and prepped to take over, and I'm a bit lost on which way to go. Do I waste the work and investment in the Citrine King, or waste the work and investment in the Cherry Blossom heir (who is too nice to just mute-replace the king)? I guess, I can post the heir for sale, and hope he can salvage some of the investment...



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Edited on 17/02/18 @ 05:46:14 by muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-17 05:46:30
Don't you have a side account? You could use him there.

Anyway, I added what Kitty said to the ticket and asked for an official statement to clear up this confusion once and for all.



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-17 05:52:41
My side is the Citrine. :(
My main is a sentimental Ice (he is preserving a rare marking from a special lioness I won in 2014).



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2018-02-17 06:10:54
Awww, Mutt. That's a thought decision to make. :(



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2018-02-18 08:21:18
Kitty updated the Bug Thread again, for those who didn't see. The fix should happen by this Friday.

(I decided to keep the Citrine stud, but it was hard to sell the Cherry Pie.)



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Edited on 18/02/18 @ 08:22:45 by muttduck (#78)

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2018-02-18 10:22:25
Ooh, congrats Mutt! Here's hoping all your work gives you something nice in return soon!



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2018-02-18 10:54:42
Based on it being fixed soon i did go ahead and king my Maddie boy. I can't wait to see one actually pass though.



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2018-02-27 02:21:34
Ladies and gents, the code works! This morning my stud Khaz gave me TWO second gen Madagascars! :) Moms are Ivory and Unholy.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794115936651
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794115936653



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